Chicago riots cancel Trump rally

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

your example: September 18, 2008 “Argue With Neighbors, Get In Their Face”

the whole quote

"I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they're independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face!"

Sorry I didn't have time to debunk all your comparision examples

I guess Trump supporters would only focus on the Get in their face part of the message and see it as a green light to assault people or spit in their Face .. or a call to violence

While those of us who need mental screenings would read the whole statement in the context of sell the message dont give up.. argue your position be loud and be heard .. But I guess thats what separates us from Trump supporters

And now he want to arrest protester for protesting he's going to press charges against them Interesting

Now that Trump has been awarded Secret Service protection, protesters threatening him can face serious consequences.
Trump supporters certainly have the legal right to protect themselves from groups that have a violent past. From the videos I saw, Trump supporters were protecting themselves . I have yet to see Trump supporters burning down buildings , looting and beating up people simply because they are of a different race .
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[scottw]

what an incredible ability to ignore the behavior or these "protesters" as well as the history of this type of behavior from the left and instead focus on Trump as some kind of exception and ....how about democrat supporting unions, how have they behaved over the years particularly around election time? democrats have been thugs in general, have set the standard for bad behavior and now act horrified that Trump kinda resembles them...too damn funny.....

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Now that Trump has been awarded Secret Service protection, protesters threatening him can face serious consequences.
Trump supporters certainly have the legal right to protect themselves from groups that have a violent past. From the videos I saw, Trump supporters were protecting themselves . I have yet to see Trump supporters burning down buildings , looting and beating up people simply because they are of a different race .
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Yea, like sucker punching a protester walking out of the arena? Has there been a since incident of a Trump protester actually starting a fight?

Do you have any idea why the protesters are so upset?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Do you have any idea why the protesters are so upset?

yup...cause after 8 years of hoping for change their lives still suck and they want to blame someone...they apparently have the time in their lives to go to a rally for someone they'll never support to express hate and make asses out of themselves...probably just wanna be on the news

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

yup...cause after 8 years of hoping for change their lives still suck and they want to blame someone...they apparently have the time in their lives to go to a rally for someone they'll never support to express hate and make asses out of themselves...probably just wanna be on the news

I was talking about the protesters, not the Trump supporters.

There goes that number 8 again...

[scottw]

I don't think the Trump supporters are upset...seems like they are there having a great time till the protesters show up uninvited acting like fools and warranting arrest in some cases....


Trump tried to go to one of the most violent cities in the world the other day, completely run by democrats for decades....and Trump was accused of inciting violence....hilarious....mental disorder

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

I don't think the Trump supporters are upset...seems like they are there having a great time till the protesters show up uninvited acting like fools and warranting arrest in some cases....

Of course they're having a great time, who doesn't like a free show?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Of course they're having a great time, who doesn't like a free show?

And the protesters ...Of course they're having a great time . Who doesn't like everything for free .
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[buckman]

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Do you have any idea why the protesters are so upset?[/QUOTE]

Well a vast majority of them I believe need to find some sort of narcissistic self important issue to latch on to , so they can call them self an activist whatever the #^&#^&#^&#^& that means . Other than that, no, I have no idea what they stand for .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Do you have any idea why the protesters are so upset?

No one likes getting offended, and Trump is offensive.

So is Al Sharpton. Yet you don't see white conservatives rioting to prevent him from speaking.

WHY IS THAT, SPENCE?

Liberals would be well-served to take 5 minutes and read the Bill Of Rights, there must be a children's pop-up book version of it somewhere. In there, it says Trump has the right to free speech, and that his supporters have the right to free assembly.

Nowhere in there, does it say that liberals have the right to never be offended. That right doesn't exist.

Liberals love plurality of everything, except ideas.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No one likes getting offended, and Trump is offensive.

So is Al Sharpton. Yet you don't see white conservatives rioting to prevent him from speaking.

WHY IS THAT, SPENCE?

Liberals would be well-served to take 5 minutes and read the Bill Of Rights, there must be a children's pop-up book version of it somewhere. In there, it says Trump has the right to free speech, and that his supporters have the right to free assembly.

Nowhere in there, does it say that liberals have the right to never be offended. That right doesn't exist.

Liberals love plurality of everything, except ideas.

Jim , I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive . It seams you have fallen for the Romney / media talking points . What he says is off the cuff , without script band almost always portrayed out of context . You're too bright to fall for that and certainly able to read between the lines . It's refreshing to have that, as even Megyn Kelly has said . He is a master at dominating the air waves . I believe he just might be a bit smarter then you give him credit for .
He shouldn't even be used in the same post as an Al Sharpton.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Jim , I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive . It seams you have fallen for the Romney / media talking points .

If my kids talked like Trump they'd get suspended from school. In nearly every situation where he could speak like a leader he instead turns to obscenities, division and blaming others. He seems willing to make just about anything up to suit his point and pull the worst from people.

He's a just con artist and a masterful one at that.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

If my kids talked like Trump they'd get suspended from school. In nearly every situation where he could speak like a leader he instead turns to obscenities, division and blaming others. He seems willing to make just about anything up to suit his point and pull the worst from people.

He's a just con artist and a masterful one at that.

Again you say things about a Republican that can be said about Democrats. What's your point? Is it that Trump is better at it?

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Again you say things about a Republican that can be said about Democrats. What's your point? Is it that Trump is better at it?

I don't think there's any parity between Trump and and Democrats running for office.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Again you say things about a Republican that can be said about Democrats. What's your point? Is it that Trump is better at it?

BINGO. Liberals are finding out that it's a lot nicer to be the one dishing that out, than being on the receiving end of it. That's the only real difference, although you'd have to say Trump is more boorish about it too.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

He's a just con artist and a masterful one at that.

Based on the fact that you won't concede that Hilary has ever lied, I'd say she conned you pretty good.

She also says I am pro-life because I hate wonen's health (in reality it's because I have empathy for the baby), that if I am concerned about our debt it's because I hate poor people, if I want secure borders it's because I hate Mexicans, if I support freedom of religion it's because I hate homosexuals, blah blah blah.

Part of the reason why people like Trump, is because when liberals inevitably hit below the belt (which they do when they know they can't debate the merits of their positions), Trump (unlike Bush, McCain, and Romney) will roll up his sleeves, put on a pair of brass knuckles, and hit back, hard, and call you nasty names while he's doing it. Some of those people deserve exactly that.

He goes too far, and he does it to people who don't deserve it...that's my isue with it. But we need someone, when Hilary claims to be a feminist, who will tell her to STFU, that she has no moral authority on feminism because of who she married, and how she attacked his victims. I genuinely respect Trump's willingness to call that crap out for EXACTLY what it is.

If all conservatives responded a bit more like Trump, liberals would be a lot less likely to lie about what conservatives believe. He's a lot like Ann Coulter, but more so. I have seen Ann Coulter put these smug liberals in their place, and leave them unable to respond, more times than I can count.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

In nearly every situation where he could speak like a leader he instead turns to obscenities, division and blaming others. He seems willing to make just about anything up to suit his point and pull the worst from people.

He's a just con artist and a masterful one at that.

Sounds just like Sharpton
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Sounds just like Sharpton
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Or Obama ... A legacy of missed opportunity
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Sounds just like Sharpton
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Correct!

Yet Sharpton gets (1) his own TV show, and (2) regular invitations from Obama to come to DC to discuss policy. And at the same time, liberals don't want to let Trump speak.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Sounds just like Sharpton
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Is Al Sharpton a front running presidential candidate? Has he ever been?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

Jim , I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive . It seams you have fallen for the Romney / media talking points . What he says is off the cuff , without script band almost always portrayed out of context . You're too bright to fall for that and certainly able to read between the lines . It's refreshing to have that, as even Megyn Kelly has said . He is a master at dominating the air waves . I believe he just might be a bit smarter then you give him credit for .
He shouldn't even be used in the same post as an Al Sharpton.
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"I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive"

He said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured, and he made fun of Carly Fiorina's looks. I think I have pretty thick skin, but I don't know how anyone can fail to be deeply offended by that.

I could care less about what 'offends' the liberals who live in the upper west side of Manhattan or Hollywood, bit those are the things that offend me.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured, and he made fun of Carly Fiorina's looks. I think I have pretty thick skin, but I don't know how anyone can fail to be deeply offended by that.

Couldn't agree more. The McCain comment was over the top. Making fun of a person's looks is great lesson to teach your kids.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Couldn't agree more. The McCain comment was over the top. Making fun of a person's looks is great lesson to teach your kids.

Yet it doesn't bother you one bit when Hilary says that because I am anti-abortion, I therefore don't care about women's health.

I have never, not once, ever, heard a liberal say "I respect that pro-life people have empathy for the baby. However, I believe that empathy is mis-placed for the following reasons..."

They never, ever do that. Because if the issue is debated honestly like that, my side suddenly looks a lot less repugnant, and liberals can't deal with that, even if it's the truth.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive"

He said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured, and he made fun of Carly Fiorina's looks. I think I have pretty thick skin, but I don't know how anyone can fail to be deeply offended by that.

I could care less about what 'offends' the liberals who live in the upper west side of Manhattan or Hollywood, bit those are the things that offend me.

I'll agree he does occasionally say some pretty outlandish things , everyone does . You just called him a con artist , nice talking point , but you have no evidence that this is a con . How is that so much different .
I grew up in a large Irish family , we always kid each other and I can't ever remember anyone being upset . People are too sensitive now a days , it creates all kinda stress and hate .
Lighten up
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'll agree he does occasionally say some pretty outlandish things , everyone does . You just called him a con artist , nice talking point , but you have no evidence that this is a con . How is that so much different .
I grew up in a large Irish family , we always kid each other and I can't ever remember anyone being upset . People are too sensitive now a days , it creates all kinda stress and hate .
Lighten up
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Trump is certainly a con artist.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'll agree he does occasionally say some pretty outlandish things , everyone does . You just called him a con artist , nice talking point , but you have no evidence that this is a con . How is that so much different .
I grew up in a large Irish family , we always kid each other and I can't ever remember anyone being upset . People are too sensitive now a days , it creates all kinda stress and hate .
Lighten up
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"everyone does"

Not everyone could say that John McCain's capture means he doesn't deserve respect. 99% of Americans would be incapable of saying that out loud.

When he hits back at people who have it coming, I genuinely respect it.

Finally, maybe my biggest issue with him, is this...I have no way of knowing what he really believes, about some issues I care deeply about. A few years ago, his stated posiitons were a lot more aligned with the liberal wing of the Democratic party, than the GOP. Maybe he genuinely saw the light.

Also, even if I loved everything about him, I am objective enough to know that his nomination could mean we hand the Oval Office, and far worse the Congress, back to the Democrats. I'd rather win with my second choice, then get clobbered with my first choice.