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01-26-2016, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
You keep getting stuck on the legality issue (which is still being investigated?) but avoiding the "stupid, incompetent" issue.
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I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.
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01-26-2016, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.
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Still avoiding the stupid, incompetent issue.
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01-27-2016, 09:35 AM
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Still avoiding the stupid, incompetent issue.
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I think that's long since been addressed.
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01-27-2016, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I think that's long since been addressed.
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Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.
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01-27-2016, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.
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And yet as unlikeable as she is, the GOP is on the verge of nominating someone who would not only hand her the Presidency, he might well give Congress back to them, too. There are a lot more GOP senate seats up for re-election that Democrat (twice as many, I think). Trump will galvanize Democrats, and keep conservatives home. Incredible.
The Democrats are begging us to take the Oval Office by going with her, and we are saying "no, thanks, and you can keep Congress, too".
Sigh.
I hear Paraguay is pretty nice.
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01-27-2016, 04:49 PM
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Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.
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Well, at least your not stretching 
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01-27-2016, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well, at least your not stretching 
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Why on earth would I imitate your style?
You will find that I was spot on if you would do the search. Of course, knowing how you wander off topic into your own version of the context, the search would only confirm your own perspective. Which would just turn up apples instead of oranges.
Besides, this has long since been addressed.
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01-28-2016, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.
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"Stupid is what stupid does."
Oh, and she changed her tune again, yesterday I saw where she said,
I did nothing wrong, where several weeks ago she apologized. Unstable at the least.
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" Choose Life "
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01-30-2016, 04:48 AM
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oh my!?!@...must be a Friday
The State Department is refusing to release another seven e-mail chains comprising 37 pages of correspondence, with one intelligence official telling Fox News the messages are “too damaging” to make public under any circumstances. Intelligence sources said they were concerned copies of the e-mails may exist elsewhere, and even a partial release could allow those actors to identify “special access programs,” intelligence that exists at a level of classification above “top secret.” It’s a reversal for the State Department, who for months argued against the intelligence community’s assessment that at least 2 of Clinton’s e-mails contained highly classified information. Now the number has ballooned to 22, and the State Department refuses to challenge the intelligence community’s assessment.
January 29 at 9:22 PM
The State Department acknowledged for the first time Friday that “top secret” information has been found in emails that passed through the private email server Hillary Clinton used while leading the agency, elevating the issue in the presidential campaign three days before the hotly contested Iowa caucuses.
The State Department’s conclusion came as it has worked to process 55,000 pages of Clinton’s correspondence for public release, including about 1,000 pages that were released Friday night. Clinton has said that she deleted 31,000 additional emails in 2014, deeming them purely personal.
The State Department has been under a court order to release the documents in batches, once a month, as part of a lawsuit filed by reporter Jason Leopold of Vice News, who sued after the department failed to respond promptly to his request for the public documents.
A judge had ordered the department to release all of the emails by the end of January, but attorneys for the department said this week that they would miss the deadline, (we know how this administration treats redlines and deadlines)and requested another month.
That means the last of Clinton’s emails will not be released until the end of February — after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary — and just before Super Tuesday, when voters in 11 states will cast ballots.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...tary-of-state/
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01-27-2016, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.
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That's the first time I have heard reference to the "last 5 Secretaries. Please post a source of your talking points
Are they not investigating her server ?
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01-27-2016, 09:48 AM
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That's the first time I have heard reference to the "last 5 Secretaries. Please post a source of your talking points
Are they not investigating her server ?
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Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.
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01-27-2016, 10:50 AM
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Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.
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So she is being investigated . You lied again but I can see where you have a tough time with that .
And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also . A predictable move and typical of this administration and of the Clintons.
So freaking pathetic
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01-27-2016, 12:49 PM
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So she is being investigated . You lied again but I can see where you have a tough time with that .
And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also . A predictable move and typical of this administration and of the Clintons.
So freaking pathetic
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You guys use the word lie so much I'm not sure what it means any more.
The FBI investigation is about potential mishandling of information, it's not focused on Hillary Clinton. The NYT wrongly reported at the onset she was the target of a criminal probe which was not true.
If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.
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01-27-2016, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
You guys use the word lie so much I'm not sure what it means any more.
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if you need a refresher course...just read any of your posts
"A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false"
don't fret...if we've learned anything from the Clinton's it's that lies are frequent, necessary and often admirable when well told....
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01-27-2016, 03:58 PM
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if you need a refresher course...just read any of your posts
"A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false"
don't fret...if we've learned anything from the Clinton's it's that lies are frequent, necessary and often admirable when well told....
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Can you name ONE?
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01-27-2016, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.
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That is the defense strategy of a guilty administration . You're making my argument.
Do you keep picking on Colin Powell because he's black ?
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01-27-2016, 04:29 PM
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That is the defense strategy of a guilty administration . You're making my argument.
Do you keep picking on Colin Powell because he's black ?
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Did you even read my post? That doesn't make any sense.
I'm not picking on Powell, he came out and said he basically did the same thing.
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01-28-2016, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.
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How about we focus on the one SOS who is actually RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.....
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-28-2016, 10:10 AM
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How about we focus on the one SOS who is actually RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.....
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Well, you have to establish a baseline. If others using private email to transfer similar information then Clinton's behavior isn't quite so scandalous now is it?
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01-28-2016, 07:32 AM
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And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also .
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of course, don't you recall when Nixon was being investigated....I mean when Nixon's TAPES were being investigate for wrong doing.... the previous 5 Presidents tapes were also investigated to determine if there was anything incriminating on them or if they erased stuff...or....you know...if the tapes had somehow mishandled themselves ?
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01-27-2016, 11:31 AM
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Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.
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right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president
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01-27-2016, 12:52 PM
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right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president
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The FBI doesn't have the power to indict neither Clinton or her server. If they did find evidence of criminal behavior there would have to be a grand jury and federal prosecutor before anyone could be indicted, which isn't likely in any case...
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01-27-2016, 02:57 PM
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right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president
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To quote Mater, "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!"
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01-27-2016, 03:29 PM
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To quote Mater, "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!"
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even funnier when Spence didn't get it 
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