Hilary email

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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

So spence give me reasons why I should vote for Hillary. Seriously, unless you just like to stir the pot.
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I'm not really a big Clinton supporter to be honest. Hoping Bloomberg jumps in the race...

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

Yep
Typical Democrat
Just like blaming things on someone or something else taking no responsibility
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Yep, just like a typical democrat.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-arrest-218028

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Originally Posted by justplugit

Neither Spence,it is the truth and the furthest thing from funny.
Unless you are living in a different universe you would know the list is the truth.
Please list the facts that counter the list I posted.
I would like to see your truth and sources.

No, I've just read enough on the subject to have a good sense of what's sloppy or simply fabricated reporting versus what "appears" to have actually went down.

I can provide links, you'll just dismiss them. You have to put your time in and read for yourself.

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Kinda like making it home driving Chit-faced....No harm, No Foul.

Pretty sure it's still illegal.....or at the very least irresponsible.

And at the very least I shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of the van pool...
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You keep comparing illegal activity with legal but not perfect behavior. I'd say it's more akin to steering briefly with your knee.

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Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Spence....Petraeus sent 2 emails to the lady friend, they did not cause any damage, or any disaster....so Y is he punished and not her....I know Y, she is the Affluenza lady....

Petraeus knowingly disclosed classified information, it's completely different. Had the info become public he'd have done time.

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Well, except we are fairly certain that other foreign governments were reading the emails of the SECRETARY OF STATE.

We do know Russian hackers compromised state.gov.

What data makes you "fairly certain" that other foreign governments were in her server? Sounds like speculation.

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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

Speaking of passwords what do you think Hillary used for a password?
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Obviously hrc1947

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not really a big Clinton supporter to be honest. Hoping Bloomberg jumps in the race...

I assume it basically comes down to the D after the name is all that matters.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

We do know Russian hackers compromised state.gov.

What data makes you "fairly certain" that other foreign governments were in her server? Sounds like speculation.

Did " the investigations " ever really get her server and all the purged emails ? There has to be plenty of emails between foreign governments and Hillary discussing donations to the foundation . Does that assumption make sense ?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Yep, just like a typical democrat.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-arrest-218028

Palin is Hillary's alter ego. She has Hillary's shrieking, polarizing, accusatory, blame mongering style, but coming from the right instead of from the left. Except Palin is better looking and looks more like a woman.

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Originally Posted by buckman

Did " the investigations " ever really get her server and all the purged emails ? There has to be plenty of emails between foreign governments and Hillary discussing donations to the foundation . Does that assumption make sense ?
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Pretty sure the FBI has access to everything, but that's not the focus of this investigation either. For that to happen you'd have to provide some evidence she did anything wrong, which I don't think you have.

But why don't we just follow the model for most other investigations. Assume Clinton is guilty of mass deception and fraud and just dig and dig because you're going to find it eventually.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

No, I've just read enough on the subject to have a good sense of what's sloppy or simply fabricated reporting versus what "appears" to have actually went down.

It "appears" that you think you've read just enough to have your "good sense" fabricate what you think "appears" to have actually went down. Especially when you're egotistical enough to believe that your ''good sense' is gooder than somebody else's "good sense."

I can provide links, you'll just dismiss them. You have to put your time in and read for yourself.

Those who live by links, die by links. If a reader's "good sense" likes Jusplugit's links better than yours, you lose the battle of links. But that's OK. Your superior egotistical "good sense" will always fabricate (in your own mind) the appearance that your links are winners.

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Originally Posted by detbuch

Those who live by links, die by links. If a reader's "good sense" likes Jusplugit's links better than yours, you lose the battle of links. But that's OK. Your superior egotistical "good sense" will always fabricate the appearance that your links are winners.

And other opinions aren't formed by links?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

You keep comparing illegal activity with legal but not perfect behavior. I'd say it's more akin to steering briefly with your knee.

He did throw in "at the very least irresponsible . . . And at the very least [she] shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of the van pool...

She's disqualified whether her actions were legal or illegal.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

And other opinions aren't formed by links?

Yes, they can be, but your implication that your "good sense" is superior to others is offensive.

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Originally Posted by detbuch

Yes, they can be, but your implication that your "good sense" is superior to others is offensive.

I never asserted I had better sense, I said I've done more homework.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I never asserted I had better sense, I said I've done more homework.

No, you didn't say that. And how do you know if you did more homework? And what, other than your sopposed "good sense" informs you that your homework is better than Justplugit's. Or that your links, which he asked for and you didn't give, were not more "appearance" than what actually "went down."

Your post was full of the implication that you somehow know better, have a better "sense." Similar to the previous post a little before this when you said: "The fundamental lack of understanding you guys have over this topic is most certainly mind boggling."

Your know better than the rest of us. Or so you think.

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by spence

I never asserted I had better sense, I said I've done more homework.

See post 67 which I think pretty much sums up how you feel unless I am mistaken it seems you labeled me. I'll take it in here, and notice I kept my gloves on compared to other areas on this site where I feel insulting others is crossing a line.
How did you make out with the broken office chair by the way. I considered having you come to me and I would weld it for you but we don't really have that kind of relationship for lack of a better term. Besides if the weld fails I don't want you to try and hold me responsible for any injury.
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by detbuch

No, you didn't say that. And how do you know if you did more homework? And what, other than your sopposed "good sense" informs you that your homework is better than Justplugit's. Or that your links, which he asked for and you didn't give, were not more "appearance" than what actually "went down."

Your post was full of the implication that you somehow know better, have a better "sense." Similar to the previous post a little before this when you said: "The fundamental lack of understanding you guys have over this topic is most certainly mind boggling."

Your know better than the rest of us. Or so you think.

There is an old adage Spence, that "Pride goes before the fall." I personally have
found that to be true and have seen many others fall hard from the same thing. Just sayin.
I asked very simple questions where we differ in the truth and facts. Being we are at different ends of the spectrum with this email thing I wondered where you got such 180 deg info. As bright and well read as you would have some believe, I thought it would be easy for you to show me your facts. But instead you throw it back on me that you are better read and versed than me. That's OK, I'll just assume you and Obama are cut from the same cloth and you know best. NOT.

Watch the Pride doesn't bite you in the arse.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

You keep comparing illegal activity with legal but not perfect behavior. I'd say it's more akin to steering briefly with your knee.

Its legal to own a car and drive a car, you can drive it 24/7 if you want. you can load it up with people or you can load it up with crap and drive it anywhere you want

Its illegal to operate under the influence, there is the crime.

You can own your own server. You can run it 24/7 if you want. You can load it up with all the files you want. Hillary is free to store all her leather thong and corset pics she wants (feel free to file that visual away in your spank bank)

Its illegal to mis-handle, whether with intent or through negligence, classified material. She signed an NDA to that fact saying that when she took her position as SecState.

Her defenders are always quick to say that she didn't do anything illegal by having her server and think that covers it.....its not the fact that she had a server.....its what she did with it that is the problem.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I don't know, you have IT guys and guys with security clearances and IT guys with security clearances all telling you what she did was illegal and unsecure, yet the strategic messaging guy does not want believe it could possibly be true.

That doesn't matter, John

Spence OBVIOUSLY stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by spence

Yep, just like a typical democrat.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-arrest-218028

You are correct and I am wrong as John pointed out , I have no excuse.
Palin is an idiot.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

Speaking of passwords what do you think Hillary used for a password?
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Vrwc123

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Petraeus knowingly disclosed classified information, it's completely different. Had the info become public he'd have done time.

True, he knowingly shared classified stuff with someone he knew wasn't cleared.

But if she created a situation, where her staff knew that if they wanted her to review stuff she needed to see, that it would have to go to her personal server...and if she knew that some of the stuff sent to her personal server was going to be stuff that doesn't belong there...one might be able to make a compelling case of a crime.

She said she didn't want to be inconvenienced with carrying two devices, right? So how can she handle all that being President entails?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

True, he knowingly shared classified stuff with someone he knew wasn't cleared.

But if she created a situation, where her staff knew that if they wanted her to review stuff she needed to see, that it would have to go to her personal server...and if she knew that some of the stuff sent to her personal server was going to be stuff that doesn't belong there...one might be able to make a compelling case of a crime.

She said she didn't want to be inconvenienced with carrying two devices, right? So how can she handle all that being President entails?

How many times did you type " if " ?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

How many times did you type " if " ?
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That's why we need investigations Nebe, not all criminals confess, particularly if your name is Clinton or Kennedy.

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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

See post 67 which I think pretty much sums up how you feel unless I am mistaken it seems you labeled me. I'll take it in here, and notice I kept my gloves on compared to other areas on this site where I feel insulting others is crossing a line.

I don't think that was directed at you specifically. I'm not trying to label anyone, just calling things as I see them.

How did you make out with the broken office chair by the way. I considered having you come to me and I would weld it for you but we don't really have that kind of relationship for lack of a better term. Besides if the weld fails I don't want you to try and hold me responsible for any injury.

I remembered a certain glass blower on this site has a welder and it's pretty good now. I hadn't even considered suing when it breaks...Nebe, how much insurance do you have?

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Originally Posted by justplugit

There is an old adage Spence, that "Pride goes before the fall." I personally have
found that to be true and have seen many others fall hard from the same thing. Just sayin.

Never

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

Never

Whoa, you are one that takes pride in the lack of your pride ?????
LOL, get back to work.

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Its illegal to mis-handle, whether with intent or through negligence, classified material. She signed an NDA to that fact saying that when she took her position as SecState.

Her defenders are always quick to say that she didn't do anything illegal by having her server and think that covers it.....its not the fact that she had a server.....its what she did with it that is the problem.

I think we all understand it's not just about the server. The issue here is there still isn't really evidence Clinton mishandled anything, yet people are all running around saying she did.

Clinton being forwarded what's considered at the time benign information, that years later is deemed sensitive during a public release process is not mishandling information.