Socialist Government

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

That Sanders, an open socialist, is seriously being considered as President, especially among the younger generation, should be a clue that we may be on the verge of finally transforming .

Do you think Sanders' polling suggests a shift? Or is it a constant, simply a reflection of the fact that college kids have no idea how the world works?

If he ran 5, 10, or 20 years ago, perhaps his numbers would be similar, especially among college students. When I was in college, accummulating loans, I would have listened if someone said ""vote for me, all I'll do is tweak tax rates on the billionaires, and that will give you free tuition and healthcare", I would have fallen for that when I was 19.

I hope his numbers do not represent a shift. Because if they do, it's not a healthy shift.

[DZ]

I agree - having been a young college age voter once I can vouch that most do not understand the consequence of their votes in the long term view. Most are looking at what can my vote do for me NOW when my vote could provide giveaways like free tuition and tax hikes on everyone except me. I mean who wouldn't want that? Young people don't care that the country will be like Greece when they finally get old enough to care.

[JohnR]

He is calling for "Political Revolution" and a lot of people are eating it up. particularly those under 40 that have no concept or context of the 70 years PAX Americana. Revolution with red flags and worker's fists.

Originally Posted by Nebe

That is a question that everyone is ignoring. I think the gridlock in congress will be even worse with Sanders.
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Hope so

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If he got elected, which he won't, it would be much worse, because both parties would be blocking him. In that sense, he would serve to bring the dems and republicans together, give him credit for that.

He's 25 points behinbd her in every single national poll. Nebe, I desperately want hinm to get th enomination, but it's very unlikely. Maybe if she gets indicted, which I cannot believe is likely either.

I don't think so - there are a lot of people that believe this is the way. Many of those people ignorant of history and others that chose this path as career. Socialism is a career and enabling it furthers that career.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

He is calling for "Political Revolution" and a lot of people are eating it up. particularly those under 40 that have no concept or context of the 70 years PAX Americana. Revolution with red flags and worker's fists.

Or, it could be that his rhetoric against wall street resonates because people know it's pretty true. In this regard Sanders is much less politically correct than Trump...he just doesn't have to insult people to get attention.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Or, it could be that his rhetoric against wall street resonates because people know it's pretty true. In this regard Sanders is much less politically correct than Trump...he just doesn't have to insult people to get attention.

Sanders and Trump are popular for exactly the same reasons

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

Sanders and Trump are popular for exactly the same reasons

People are pissed. I think the comparison ends there.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

People are pissed. I think the comparison ends there.
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yup...they're mad and not thinking...that's pretty much it

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

People are pissed. I think the comparison ends there.
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True.

Those drinking the Trump Kool Aid, by and large, want the feds to get their feet off their throats so they can make a living and send their kids to college.

Those drinking the Sanders Kool Aid are, by and large, jealous and entitled and want to be handed that which others kill themselves to achieve. Gimme, gimme, gimme.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

People are pissed. I think the comparison ends there.
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Sanders also has a similarity with the terrible Koch brothers:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...76b_story.html

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Or, it could be that his rhetoric against wall street resonates because people know it's pretty true. .

What's pretty true? The business is evil, and if we just reduce their profits by a teenie-tiny bit, we can all have free healthcare and free college?