Remember that planned parenthood video ?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

Just for the record I'd like to remind Nebe that his thread has been "squashed."

I can't believe for a moment that a film maker, who's willing to spread insidious lies that are getting people killed, would have any motivation to mislead in other areas of their films.

Wait, a video caused something? Where have we seen this before? Must be a Tea Partier because they are all Tea Baggers.

For starters - lets let the authorities investigate this and prosecute the perp to the fullest extent possible.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Wait, a video caused something? Where have we seen this before? Must be a Tea Partier because they are all Tea Baggers.

For starters - lets let the authorities investigate this and prosecute the perp to the fullest extent possible.

I was speaking in more general terms...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I was speaking in more general terms...

So generally speaking, what videos are resulting in murders?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So generally speaking, what videos are resulting in murders?

Generally speaking about the cycle of violence that continually targets Planned Parenthood. The videos were certainly created in a manipulative to spark outrage and we've already seen threats, arson etc… The killer here may be nuts but I doubt he thought he was walking into a 7-11.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Generally speaking about the cycle of violence that continually targets Planned Parenthood. The videos were certainly created in a manipulative to spark outrage and we've already seen threats, arson etc… The killer here may be nuts but I doubt he thought he was walking into a 7-11.

"the cycle of violence that continually targets Planned Parenthood"

Continually? Not to downplay the horror of this recent event, but how often is there serious violence at Planned Parenthood? Once every few years? That's "continuous"?

"The videos were certainly created in a manipulative to spark outrage "

Outrage, yes. Violence, no.

" doubt he thought he was walking into a 7-11"

Agreed. But can we be honest? How many people have been murdered at abortion clinics since Roe V Wade became law? 25? One every couple of years? Hardly continuous. It's despicable, but hardly continuous.

First you said a video about lying was inspiring murder, then you said you were merely speaking in general terms, now you're being fairly specific again. Highly speculative, and very specific.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

First you said a video about lying was inspiring murder, then you said you were merely speaking in general terms, now you're being fairly specific again. Highly speculative, and very specific.

I think the list of death threats, murders, arson etc… that PP has had to deal with over the last 40 years speak for itself. You do understand why that clinic had police protection there on that day right?

It's ok to be against abortion, but the propaganda is going to incite the crazies, and if the propaganda is disingenuous then there's some liability to share around.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the list of death threats, murders, arson etc… that PP has had to deal with over the last 40 years speak for itself. You do understand why that clinic had police protection there on that day right?

It's ok to be against abortion, but the propaganda is going to incite the crazies, and if the propaganda is disingenuous then there's some liability to share around.

Lots of elementary schools now have armed guards. Is there continual violence against schools, or is it rare?

"It's ok to be against abortion"

I'm glad you concede I have that right.

"the propaganda is going to incite the crazies"

99% of the pro-life speech isn't going to incite anyone to be violent. Is it more leading to violence, then Black Lives Matter chanting "what do we want? DEAD COPS! When do we want it? NOW."

That's a wee bit more direct of a call to violence, than 99% of the anti-abortion language you hear. But no one is expecting you to concede that.

You want to say that the rhetoric is getting uglier, I agree. No shortage of it on your side, either. If you are opposed to abortion, it's not because you have empathy for the unborn, it's because you are waging war on women. If you say the entitlements need to be overhauled, it's because you hate poor people. If you believe in the power of the free market to provide upward economic mobility, you only care about Wall Street fatcats. Our president saying "Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time". Yeah, John McCain and Mitt Romney are a couple of real hatemongers.