Is this true??

[PaulS]

More but but Clinton.

CNN said that the class never existed bc Carson had the wrong # for the class.

Westmorland was never at the event where Carson claimed he talked to him. And even if he was, Westmoreland would not have been qualified to offer him a "scholarship".

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

More but but Clinton.

CNN said that the class never existed bc Carson had the wrong # for the class.

Westmorland was never at the event where Carson claimed he talked to him. And even if he was, Westmoreland would not have been qualified to offer him a "scholarship".

I point out obvious hypocrisy, Paul. Like when you accuse me of hate, you chastis eme for not being respectfulk to Hilary, yet yo uare free to us eth eterm "teabagger". I guessed i missed the announcement that only you get to hurl insults, my bad.

"Westmoreland would not have been qualified to offer him a "scholarship"

He would have been able to say "hey if you apply, you'll get a full scholarship". Anyone could have toild Carson that, and they would have been rightt.

I don't like Carson. But my opinion is based on his stated policy agenda, not dirt that yellow journalists are slinging.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I point out obvious hypocrisy, Paul. Like when you accuse me of hate, you chastis eme for not being respectfulk to Hilary, yet yo uare free to us eth eterm "teabagger". I guessed i missed the announcement that only you get to hurl insults, my bad.I have done that prob. 4 -5 times in total and it is to get under your skin. Has there ever been anyone else in recent times here who hurls insults like you? POS and FCOTUS! What kind of adult talks like that bc they don't like someone's politics?

"Westmoreland would not have been qualified to offer him a "scholarship"

He would have been able to say "hey if you apply, you'll get a full scholarship". Anyone could have toild Carson that, and they would have been rightt.You're right. But Westmorland could not and would not have offered him a scholarship. Saying you are qualified (and I said he prob. was qualified earlier) and would prob. get in is far different than offering him a scholarship. In fact, he was not even at the event Carson claimed he was at.

I don't like Carson. But my opinion is based on his stated policy agenda, not dirt that yellow journalists are slinging.

How is questioning his statements yellow journalism? Even if he proves everything he has stated the facts clearly don't line up with his statements. Should the press just blindly believe everything a candidate states? It has already been shown that his statements that he had no involvement with the nutritional company where incorrect and his statement that he spoke with General Westmoreland at the event where incorrect.

We're not talking about claiming he was a Muslim and born in a foreign country here w/o ANY facts at all.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How is questioning his statements yellow journalism? Even if he proves everything he has stated the facts clearly don't line up with his statements. Should the press just blindly believe everything a candidate states? It has already been shown that his statements that he had no involvement with the nutritional company where incorrect and his statement that he spoke with General Westmoreland at the event where incorrect.

We're not talking about claiming he was a Muslim and born in a foreign country here w/o ANY facts at all.

"I have done that prob. 4 -5 times in total "

Oh, I see. So what's the maximum number of times you can use hate speech, but still congratulate yourself on not being a hater?

"it is to get under your skin"

You are failing to get under my skin, believe me. That I point out your glaring hypocrisy, doesn't mean you are under my skin. I point out the obvious hypocrisy, then forget about it.

"Has there ever been anyone else in recent times here who hurls insults like you?"

Sure. I would argue you do. Clearly Obama does ("Republicans gotta stop just hatin all the time"). I only do it, to people who have clearly demonstrated hatred for my side. I don't do fake nice. If someone uses sufficiently insulting, and clearly dishonest, language to describe my side, they have forfeited the right to expect any respect from me. Hilary claims that my side framed her husband to make it look like he was cheating. She claims that my side is waging war on women (funny, since Ted Kennedy has the only confirmed kill in that war). If I describe her as a c*nt, it's because in my opinion, she deserves no better that that from me. If you disagree, good for you. But if you use the term teabagger, you can't claim to a holier-than-thou attitude, because we are exactly alike in this regard. When you feel sufficiently provoked, you use hateful, insulting language. Just like me. Try making that wrong.


"But the term "full scholarship" is an inaccurate description"

Funny. Carson has posted a West Point recruiting poster from that time, aimed at black students, that promises "scholarships". The word "scholarship" is on the poster. And if Carson relies on West Point's poster, he is a liar. Makes perfect sense!

"But Westmorland could not and would not have offered him a scholarship"

How do you know what he "would" do? How could you possibly know that?

"questioning his statements yellow journalism?"

POLITICO claimed that the Carson camp admitted to fabricating the scholarship thing. Carson's camp never made that statement to POLITICO, and POLITICO admitted THEY were lyong when they removed that claim from the headline, but of course offered no apology.

What is the proof that he "lied" about the scholarship or his violent tendencies? No proof, just suggestion.

How about instead of questioning his violent tendencies, we ask if someone with those tendencies is fit to be POTUS? You don't have to invent lies to discredit the man, there's enough truth to do that. But that's not enough for minorities or women who are a threat to liberals.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

More but but Clinton.

CNN said that the class never existed bc Carson had the wrong # for the class.

Westmorland was never at the event where Carson claimed he talked to him. And even if he was, Westmoreland would not have been qualified to offer him a "scholarship".

I swore this off but I can't take it anymore... Nobody pays for tuition to West Point !!! If he got in it would've been free. I don't think we have any doubt he would've got in. Nor do we have any doubt that he would've been recruited. Therefore he would've had a free ride .. Crawl back in to your Prius
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

I swore this off but I can't take it anymore... Nobody pays for tuition to West Point !!! Has anyone claimed they did? If he got in it would've been free. I don't think we have any doubt he would've got in. Nor do we have any doubt that he would've been recruited. Therefore he would've had a free ride .. Crawl back in to your Prius
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Prius - good one.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Prius - good one.

If your dislike for the man is based on him lying about being offered a scholarship ( free ride )
And let's face it you and Spence seem to have a certain glee over this potential problem for a successful black man , then your ridicule is baseless . Are you surprised to find out that nobody pays to go to West Point ? I'm pretty sure you are
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

If your dislike for the man is based on him lying about being offered a scholarship ( free ride )
And let's face it you and Spence seem to have a certain glee over this potential problem for a successful black man
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Of course, it's all race, right?

Carson is running on his personal narrative and character. Being a brain surgeon doesn't provide a lot of direct executive experience. I am not saying he is not qualified, but at best, he has been loose with facts on this narrative.



**Caveat added to every post I make on this election: And yes Jim, Hillary lied about the sniper file to conflate things as well. Yes she probably knew Bill was having affair. Her story sucks as well. It bothers me that all around these are the best we have to offer.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Of course, it's all race, right?

Carson is running on his personal narrative and character. Being a brain surgeon doesn't provide a lot of direct executive experience. I am not saying he is not qualified, but at best, he has been loose with facts on this narrative.



**Caveat added to every post I make on this election: And yes Jim, Hillary lied about the sniper file to conflate things as well. Yes she probably knew Bill was having affair. Her story sucks as well. It bothers me that all around these are the best we have to offer.

Can't imagine who you're going to vote for
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

Can't imagine who you're going to vote for
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Not Carson, and not for the reasons in this thread. I disagree pretty strongly with his positions on social issues, foreign policy and climate.

If it is Hillary vs... I don't know what I'll do yet. Sorry Nebe, we won't be feeling the Bern on election day

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Of course, it's all race, right?

Carson is running on his personal narrative and character. Being a brain surgeon doesn't provide a lot of direct executive experience. I am not saying he is not qualified, but at best, he has been loose with facts on this narrative.



**Caveat added to every post I make on this election: And yes Jim, Hillary lied about the sniper file to conflate things as well. Yes she probably knew Bill was having affair. Her story sucks as well. It bothers me that all around these are the best we have to offer.

"Of course, it's all race, right?"

If he wasn't black, the left wouldn't be this hellbent on destroying him. Ask Clarence Thomas how much Democrats like black people.

"Being a brain surgeon doesn't provide a lot of direct executive experience"

How about being chief of a department at John
's Hopkins? How about being of the Board Of Directors of Costco?

Hilary has executive experience, and she sucked at it. So is failing as an executive, suprerior to someone with less executive experience? By what logic is a proven failure superior to an outsider?

"at best[/B], he has been loose with facts on this narrative. "

Agreed. And Hilary, on the other hand, is a PROVEN liar, which cannot be denied. There is video evidence that debunks her bragging about coming under sniper fire. So I ask again, by what logic is an irrefutabke liar morally superior to someone who is "loose" with some facts?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

If your dislike for the man is based on him lying about being offered a scholarship ( free ride )
And let's face it you and Spence seem to have a certain glee over this potential problem for a successful black man , then your ridicule is baseless . Are you surprised to find out that nobody pays to go to West Point ? I'm pretty sure you are
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I don't think he has a chance for even the Repub. nomination. I don't know why pointng out his numerous misstaments (lies?) he has made means I "dislike" him. His own campaign has now stated that his autobiography wasn't correct as far as the scholarship (free ride) is concerned. His color makes no difference to me.

I know people who went to WP and they never referred to it as having a "scholarship".