This might be it, we are doomed.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

God the hate runs deep with you...

Right, right. I point out that our president specifically asked for a painting that makes whites out to be the worst kind of loathsome racists, and I am the hateful one.

You sit in Rev Wright's church for decades, who would expect anything different?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Right, right. I point out that our president specifically asked for a painting that makes whites out to be the worst kind of loathsome racists, and I am the hateful one.

You sit in Rev Wright's church for decades, who would expect anything different?

Actually, the woman who posed as a girl for the painting made the request. It was up for 4 months. It's one of the most iconic political paintings of all time by one of America's greatest painters.

The hate is consuming you.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually, the woman who posed as a girl for the painting made the request. It was up for 4 months. It's one of the most iconic political paintings of all time by one of America's greatest painters.

The hate is consuming you.

It's divisive.

Look, it's an important part of our history, and if you're going to put up an entire museum, or when you teach history, it's an important subject to touch upon. I'm not saying we pretend it didn't happen.

But if I'm picking one painting to hang outside the Oval Office, I don't pick something whose only message is that whites, at one time, were institutionally racist to blacks. I'd pick something that unites all of us. And if a white President had a painting of Willie Horton raping a white woman, or abu Mumia Jamal murdering a white police officer, which are also factually correct, I don't think you'd be on board with it.

The great uniter!

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

But if I'm picking one painting to hang outside the Oval Office, I don't pick something whose only message is that some whites, plus the Europeans, and the Arabs, and stronger African tribes that profited from the slave trade, at one time, were institutionally racist to blacks. I'd pick something that unites all of us.

The great uniter!

There, fixed it for you, history, unlike skin color, IS more than skin deep.

[scottw]

YUP....


"In the new West, freedom is inequality, liberty selfishness, and tribalism unity. That is all ye need to know."

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/426080/print

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by spence

The hate is consuming you.

I've told him that in the past.

I view the painting as giving a middle finger to all the racists out there who called him the N word, a ganster or the new one "You people".

Let's lie about his religion, his country, etc and then when we are upset say he is divisive.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I've told him that in the past.

I view the painting as giving a middle finger to all the racists out there who called him the N word, a ganster or the new one "You people".

Let's lie about his religion, his country, etc and then when we are upset say he is divisive.

What was sitting in Rev Wright's church for decades? Just a way to give the finger to racists? Because his sermons seemed to cast the net pretty wide, in terms of defning the enemies of that congregation (which seem to include all honkeys, not just the bad ones). And that, seems very consistent, with the mindset of someone who would want that painting, of all the painitngs in the world, to hang outside the oval office.

All the tea leaves say the same thing. Remember the "bitter clingers" comment, when the Great Uniter thought the mike was off. He also claimed that all Republicans do, the only thing they do, is "hate all the time".

After all that, I'm supposed to believe he gives a fig about my aspirations? He has absolutely no idea what motivates huge numbers of Americans. So he assumes were are motivated by racism. It can't be that our ideas are better (after all, liberalism is working SO WELL in CT, RI, Mass, IL).

Easier to paint me as a hater, than to refute what I'm saying, given the empirical evidence available to us.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It can't be that our ideas are better (after all, liberalism is working SO WELL in CT, RI, Mass, IL).

Funny,

The top 10 liberal states are primarily located in the outer longitudes of the U.S.: touching or close to the Atlantic Ocean (Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey and Maryland), and the Far West (Oregon, California, Washington and Hawaii)

America's top states to live in 2015 (CNBC)

Hawaii
Vermont
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Oregon
Washington
Massachusetts
Colorado
Iowa

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny,



America's top states to live in 2015 (CNBC)

Hawaii
Vermont
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Oregon
Washington
Massachusetts
Colorado
Iowa

That's a riot, Spence. In those top states, what's the percentage of black and Mexican residents, compared to the rest of the country? Was that poll done by the Klan?

Liberalism might work fine in Greenwich CT, or on Nantucket. That doesn't mean it works in normal places.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's a riot, Spence. In those top states, what's the percentage of black and Mexican residents, compared to the rest of the country? Was that poll done by the Klan?

Liberalism might work fine in Greenwich CT, or on Nantucket. That doesn't mean it works in normal places.

I looked it up. According to wikepedia, the US population, on average, is 12.6% black. Here are the %'s of blacks by state, for the states you and CNBC admire as the top states.

Hawaii - 3.1%
Vermont - 0.9%
Minnesota - 4.6%
New Hampshire - 1.2%
Maine - 1.0%
Oregon - 2.0
Washington - 3.7%
Massachusetts - 8.1%
Colorado - 4.3%
Iowa - 2.7%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...can_population

Wow. Those 10 states from your poll, have a combined black population, that's about one-quarter of the national average. Maybe Robert Byrd and Al Gore Sr conducted the poll for CNBC.

So should all the other states emulate those top states, and kick out 75% of their black residents? Is that what you and CNBC and the liberals, are suggesting?

You have to admit, you teed that one up nicely for me.

You were right, this is getting good.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny,



America's top states to live in 2015 (CNBC)

Hawaii
Vermont
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Oregon
Washington
Massachusetts
Colorado
Iowa

Who cares about that poll. This is the only 1 that counts. You're from RI, right?

http://www.ctpost.com/living/article...en-6593163.php