Politics by bogus question.

[Nebe]

This is a result of the dumbification of America.

Let's focus on idiotic media based talking points that all of the sheeple have been spoonfed over the winter. Forget the massive tax hand outs to the rich. Forget the defunding of food stamps. Forget the shrinking middle class. Let's focus on fags and Muslims because they are what's ruining this country.
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This is a result of the dumbification of America.

Let's focus on idiotic media based talking points that all of the sheeple have been spoonfed over the winter. Forget the massive tax hand outs to the rich. Forget the defunding of food stamps. Forget the shrinking middle class. Let's focus on fags and Muslims because they are what's ruining this country.
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I'd rather focus on the Role of the US President .
Chief of State , setting an inspiring role for the American people.
Chief Executive
Chief Administrator
Chief Diplomat
Commander in Chief
Chief Legislator
Party Chief
Citizen Chief
Chief Citizen
All of these roles to be fulfilled under the Constitution with honesty and integrity.
Where do you find such a person? That's what we should be looking for in a President.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I'd rather focus on the Role of the US President .
Chief of State , setting an inspiring role for the American people.
Chief Executive
Chief Administrator
Chief Diplomat
Commander in Chief
Chief Legislator
Party Chief
Citizen Chief
Chief Citizen
All of these roles to be fulfilled under the Constitution with honesty and integrity.
Where do you find such a person? That's what we should be looking for in a President.

Sounds good . . . except I would prefer that the Pres not be the Chief Legislator. That's one of the "chief" problems we have currently . . . POTUS being a legislator rather than the executor of congressional legislation.

[Fishpart]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sounds good . . . except I would prefer that the Pres not be the Chief Legislator. That's one of the "chief" problems we have currently . . . POTUS being a legislator rather than the executor of congressional legislation.

What about sticking to Article 2 and Amendment 10?

back to the original post.. Is everyone answering the same questions or do we ask selective questions to only a few?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Fishpart

What about sticking to Article 2 and Amendment 10?

back to the original post.. Is everyone answering the same questions or do we ask selective questions to only a few?

We most certainly do not ask the same questions of all candidates.

If a GOP candidate happens to be wealthy, and most are nowadays, that's considered suspicious, if not outright sinister. When the Democratic candidate is uber-wealthy, no one questions it. Worse, it doesn't stop that wealthy Democratic candidate from telling voters that they need to be afraid of wealthy people (Republicans) who are out to rob them, and NO ONE will say to Hilary, "aren't you also wealthy? Why is OK for you to be wealthy, but it's not OK for a Republican to be wealthy".

Thy hypocrisy is staggering. What's more mind-boggling, is that it works.

Hilary gave a speech recently, saying that the deck is unfairly stacked in favor of those at the top, and that it's her mission to re-stack the deck. What she doesn't say, is that when she re-shuffles the deck, she'll make sure she gets a royal flush, everyone else gets a pair of 4's, and none of her base will ask a question. And when conservatives point that out, we get labeled as sexist hatemongers, waging war on women.

It's never about the issues, it's always about intelllectually bankrupt fear-mongering.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It's never about the issues, it's always about intelllectually bankrupt fear-mongering.

You mean like convincing a big % of your voters that the other candidate is a Kenyon born, Muslim, socialist?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You mean like convincing a big % of your voters that the other candidate is a Kenyon born, Muslim, socialist?

Paul, here is the difference...in 2008, John McCain was the GOP candidate. In 2012, Mitt Romney was the GOP candidate. I never, not once, heard either of those guys claim that Obama was a Muslim or not born here. We have Republicans who make kooky statements like that, but they don't get the nomination for President.

On the Democratic side, that kind of outlandish behavior is much more mainstream. Hilary is the presumptive candidate, and she is irrefutably saying these things.

If we nominate Glenn Beck, Donald Trump, or Michael Savage (someone who believes these outlandish things you mentioned), then you have a point. Until then, you don't really have a point.

Have fun trying to make that wrong.

You might agree with Hilary on the issues, but she and her husband, are as revolting as it gets.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You mean like convincing a big % of your voters that the other candidate is a Kenyon born, Muslim, socialist?

Actually we are talking about the media here .
I recall "being a Mormon " was quite controversial . In a bad way
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sounds good . . . except I would prefer that the Pres not be the Chief Legislator. That's one of the "chief" problems we have currently . . . POTUS being a legislator rather than the executor of congressional legislation.

Agree 100%. It's OK if the President votes along the lines of what's best for the American People, that's his job, but when he votes down or up for his own political agenda that is just wrong.
That's where the Honor, Integrity and Transparency need to be the main attributes of his or her character. Not seeing that.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by justplugit

All of these roles to be fulfilled under the Constitution with honesty and integrity.
Where do you find such a person?

Probably sitting on a Pot 'O Gold on the other side of some magical rainbow.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Probably sitting on a Pot 'O Gold on the other side of some magical rainbow.

I'm a realist when it comes to this generation and human nature, but I believe there are still men out there capable of being true servants who have our country's best at heart.
How many of our veterans have given their service and life's for the good of our country unselfishly ?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I'm a realist when it comes to this generation and human nature, but I believe there are still men out there capable of being true servants who have our country's best at heart.
How many of our veterans have given their service and life's for the good of our country unselfishly ?

Unfortunately anybody with any integrity and common sense isn't going to put themselves, their families, and their friends through all the Bull #^&#^&#^&#^& that running for that office entails.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Unfortunately anybody with any integrity and common sense isn't going to put themselves, their families, and their friends through all the Bull #^&#^&#^&#^& that running for that office entails.

Great point. And not many decent people have the connectoins or $$ to pull off a presidential election, plus, you'd have to be insane to want that job.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Unfortunately anybody with any integrity and common sense isn't going to put themselves, their families, and their friends through all the Bull #^&#^&#^&#^& that running for that office entails.

Agree 100%, but we need to build people who are willing to serve for the sake of serving. Having worked with kids for 22 years I have seen a lot of potential and hope. I am sure your serving as a troop leader have seen the same. But, if our generation doesn't encourage honesty, integrity and character, and have sports and political leaders who they can look up to and aspire to be like, it's never going to happen.
We could go on forever talking about the bad influences they put up with, but it's everybody's job to build morality and character, if not us ,who?

[Fly Rod]

your president was aganist GAY WEDDINGS because of his religion....he quickly changed his mind while running for president....

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Agree 100%, but we need to build people who are willing to serve for the sake of serving. Having worked with kids for 22 years I have seen a lot of potential and hope. I am sure your serving as a troop leader have seen the same.

I come across good kids all the time....always have hope. My current SPL is such a stand up kid. I'd vote for him right now.

Father was a 20 year man that served in Iraq and Afghanistan, he went to El Salvador last summer to help under privileged youth. He oozes confidence and leadership qualities......15 years old.

I hope the world don't wreck him.....
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