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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Thus, the pay gap is not a function of gender, it's a function of hours worked and experience.

You might want to add the difference that men and women predominantly make in the type of jobs they choose to work in. "Studies" that I have bumped into when doing "the search" bit have noted that there are far more men employed in the higher paying jobs then women. When those numbers are indiscriminately added to the overall mix, it falsely skews the comparison of men's to women's average pay. And, even though less women than men work in those higher paying jobs, the women who do, and, as you say, work the same amount of time with equal experience in those jobs, at least in the vast majority of cases, get equal pay.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You might want to add the difference that men and women predominantly make in the type of jobs they choose to work in. "Studies" that I have bumped into when doing "the search" bit have noted that there are far more men employed in the higher paying jobs then women. When those numbers are indiscriminately added to the overall mix, it falsely skews the comparison of men's to women's average pay. And, even though less women than men work in those higher paying jobs, the women who do, and, as you say, work the same amount of time with equal experience in those jobs, at least in the vast majority of cases, get equal pay.

Very true, another huge difference is the increased likelihood for men to choose the most lucrative careers.

"even though less women than men work in those higher paying jobs, the women who do, and, as you say, work the same amount of time with equal experience in those jobs, at least in the vast majority of cases, get equal pay"

And the inescapable conclusion from your statement, is that there is no gender pay gap. There IS a pay gap between people who work more hours versus less hours. There is a gap between those who choose the most lucrative careers and those who do not. And that does not seem the least unfair to me.

If we want to increase opportunities for more Americans to be qualifies for more lucrative careers, that's an idea we should all endorse. But it's not about gender. Except maybe in Hollywood, but anyone who chooses that career path, knows exactly what they are getting into...

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Very true, another huge difference is the increased likelihood for men to choose the most lucrative careers.

"even though less women than men work in those higher paying jobs, the women who do, and, as you say, work the same amount of time with equal experience in those jobs, at least in the vast majority of cases, get equal pay"

And the inescapable conclusion from your statement, is that there is no gender pay gap. There IS a pay gap between people who work more hours versus less hours. There is a gap between those who choose the most lucrative careers and those who do not. And that does not seem the least unfair to me.

If we want to increase opportunities for more Americans to be qualifies for more lucrative careers, that's an idea we should all endorse. But it's not about gender. Except maybe in Hollywood, but anyone who chooses that career path, knows exactly what they are getting into...

You are misinformed Jimmy,I think you know that too.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You are misinformed Jimmy,I think you know that too.
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I did a pitifully quick internet "search" on types of work men and women do and these are the first and only two I read:

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/07...re-women-work/

and:

http://www.thedigeratilife.com/blog/...gender-divide/

The second article goes into more detail and has some very interesting links within the article. There are occupations in which the women make more than the men, some way more.

In general, these support the idea that the types of work that mostly women do and the types that mostly men do are a huge contributing factor in the so-called gender wage gap.

Of course, if I were to do "the search" in a more exhaustive way, I should be able to find something to dispute these. Just too tired and disinterested to do it. Maybe you can.

Anyway, my opinion is that too much is made of the issue, and I think it is politics that drives it. There is already a federal law against discriminatory hiring. Not a whole lot more can be done by government other than commie, gestapo tactics. Or, more likely, some bill with the right sounding title, Fair and Equal Pay for Women, or some such thing, which doesn't really do anything more to "fix" the phony gap except to put more regulatory burdens on business with the accompanying costly paper work--all just raising the cost of doing business and maybe even result in trimming the number of jobs. But it can sure be a rather phony campaign issue in an attempt to influence the female vote.

I still think the market best decides these things. And, indeed, according to the two articles, the market at this time favors women in some good to high wage sectors. And, as some pundits have said, if you could hire women to do the same work as men for less money, it would be foolish of businesses not to do so.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You are misinformed Jimmy,I think you know that too.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Then educate me. Please post some kind of link or study which shows a gender pay gap, which makes an apples to apples comparison between men and women, in terms of chosen career, experience, and hours worked.

Why is it, I keep asking for that, and you won't do it?

And since we all know the answer to that question, here's the follow up...why do you still cling to the phony gender pay gap, when you can't support it, and in defiance of all the studies I posted showing there is no gap?