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03-17-2015, 07:14 AM
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Reading that form it looks like it's more concerned with classified and controlled documents to preserve secrecy and historical significance. Remember that the employee decides which emails are intended to be preserved.
I'd note that Colin Powell used a personal account for government business and didn't turn over any of his emails, he didn't even keep them.
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03-17-2015, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
I'd note that Colin Powell used a personal account for government business and didn't turn over any of his emails, he didn't even keep them.
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But but ah that is different for some reason.
I still think all gov. ees should be required to use gov. email and all emails s/b saved.
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03-17-2015, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Reading that form it looks like it's more concerned with classified and controlled documents to preserve secrecy and historical significance. Remember that the employee decides which emails are intended to be preserved.
I'd note that Colin Powell used a personal account for government business and didn't turn over any of his emails, he didn't even keep them.
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Did she sign the damn document or not? How long do we have to wait to find out, and why do you suppose it's taking this long?
Colin Powell didn't run for President. If she chooses to run, she is choosing to subject herself to this scrutiny.
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03-17-2015, 08:02 AM
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Did she sign the damn document or not? How long do we have to wait to find out, and why do you suppose it's taking this long?
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Perhaps because she didn't violate anything. If they jumped to respond to every accusation it would require 24 hour coverage.
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Colin Powell didn't run for President. If she chooses to run, she is choosing to subject herself to this scrutiny.
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And if Colin Powell did run nobody would care.
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03-17-2015, 09:40 AM
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Perhaps because she didn't violate anything. If they jumped to respond to every accusation it would require 24 hour coverage.
And if Colin Powell did run nobody would care.
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If she didn't violate anything, there's no earthly reason not to tell us whether or not she signed the form.
"If they jumped to respond to every accusation it would require 24 hour coverage."
It doesn't take 2 weeks to answer the question of whether or not she signed the form. They know whether or not she signed it, they just won't answer the question. How's that for an open and transparent administration?
"And if Colin Powell did run nobody would care"
Pure speculation. In this day, anyone running has to endure brutal scrutiny. Hell, Joe The Plumber wasn't running for anything, and he got eviscerated just because he asked a simple question, which Obama answered truthfully, and the voters hated his answer. So let's not pretend that only conservatives engage in this kind of character assassination...
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03-17-2015, 10:00 AM
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It doesn't take 2 weeks to answer the question of whether or not she signed the form. They know whether or not she signed it, they just won't answer the question. How's that for an open and transparent administration?
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She probably didn't sign one but they're going through all the files to be sure. The State spokesperson said as much as this when she mentioned that top officials usually aren't asked to do this stuff.
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03-17-2015, 11:06 AM
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She probably didn't sign one but they're going through all the files to be sure. The State spokesperson said as much as this when she mentioned that top officials usually aren't asked to do this stuff.
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(If she didnt sign it, why can't they just say that?
"The State spokesperson said as much as this when she mentioned that top officials usually aren't asked to do this stuff"
That red-headed ditz? That's not what I heard. I heard her say that Hilary wasn't a typical employee, I never heard her say that top officials don't typically sign it.
Look Spence, if she wasn't required to sign it, and she didn't sign it, then there's no story. So if that were the case, just say that and be done with it. I don't want to waste time on fake stories. If she did nothing wrong, she could prove that in 2 seconds.
Stonewalling, makes her look guilty. A child knows this. You know it too, you just can't bring yourself to say it out loud when it applies to someone with a (D) after their name.
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03-17-2015, 12:55 PM
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Hillary's emails are important to reveal her part in Benghzi cover-up.
The real problem she will have is with the foreign contributions to
Clinton Foundation while she was visiting them as SEC. STATE.
The ultra-lib money is already holding back for Pocahantas Warren.
Hillary is a dead issue for Dems. Only Spence doesn't know it yet!
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03-17-2015, 09:18 AM
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[QUOTE=spence;1067875
I'd note that Colin Powell used a personal account for government business and didn't turn over any of his emails, he didn't even keep them.[/QUOTE]
Yes but email was quite different back then.
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03-17-2015, 09:23 AM
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Yes but email was quite different back then.
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Pretty much the same as it is now, though it's use at State was newer. It's a huge double standard.
Big difference back then was Powell didn't have an industrialized effort trying to tear him down.
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03-17-2015, 09:31 AM
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Pretty much the same as it is now, though it's use at State was newer. It's a huge double standard.
Big difference back then was Powell didn't have an industrialized effort trying to tear him down.
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“When I entered the State Department I found an antiquated system that had to be modernized and modernized quickly,” he said. “I started using [email] in order to get everybody to use it, so we could be a 21st-century institution and not a 19th-century [one].
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email-state-department-115870.html#ixzz3UeZiy3os
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03-17-2015, 09:47 AM
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Big difference back then was Powell didn't have an industrialized effort trying to tear him down.
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(1) back then, politics wasn't as dirty as it is now. Goes for both sides.
(2) he wasn't running for President.
Spence, will liberals grill Hilary they same way they frilled Sarah Palin? Will they go through Hilary's garbage? Will the New York Times run a baseless front page story saying that Hilary had a child from an affair, like they did to John McCain?
At the present time, presidential politics is ugly. Both sides are happy to engage in smear tactics. If she's not up for someone asking her whether or not she signed a form, how is she going to handle challenges from folks who are genuinely hostile?
She chose to get involved in all these scandals, she chose to claim she was under sniper fire, she chose to say what difference does it make why the Americans were killed in Libya, she chose not to say "it was my fault, it was my ambassador and he asked for more security."
Are we making up all these incidents which question her morality? You can desperatrely try to spin them all you want, maybe you can get a job in her PR department. But if she wants to get involved in scandals, blame her for the media attention, not the media.
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03-17-2015, 10:34 AM
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I'd note that Colin Powell used a personal account for government business and didn't turn over any of his emails, he didn't even keep them.
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Deflect, deflect. Turn over all the e mails from the sever and show the signed
release and it will go away tomorrow.
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