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03-04-2015, 07:31 AM
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The majority of Iranians do not hate America or Israel. It's a shame we didn't do more to help the people there form of democracy back in 2009 when they were trying so hard. Missed opportunities and poor or lack of decision making has really hurt this country.
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03-04-2015, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
The majority of Iranians do not hate America or Israel.
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I assume you personally did a door to door consensus?
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03-04-2015, 12:41 PM
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I assume you personally did a door to door consensus?
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No I've been too busy with the charter 2 fish thread.
So I take it you believe different?
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03-04-2015, 02:19 PM
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No I've been too busy with the charter 2 fish thread.
So I take it you believe different?
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I believe there is no truely accurate statement and to make one in a formulated rebuttal is preposterous, but i figured i would give you the benefit just in case you had the oppertunity, and i would love to see the data.
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03-04-2015, 05:08 PM
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I believe there is no truely accurate statement and to make one in a formulated rebuttal is preposterous, but i figured i would give you the benefit just in case you had the oppertunity, and i would love to see the data.
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I believe it's true from what I've read and listening to members of the opposition party . The relatively few in power are the problem. For us and for them
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03-05-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
The majority of Iranians do not hate America or Israel..
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That was pretty much my understanding also. |
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03-05-2015, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
That was pretty much my understanding also.
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Is it pretty much your understanding also that back in 2009 "Missed opportunities and poor or lack of decision making has really hurt this country"?
If the majority of Iranians need our help to remove the mullah command and control of Iran, then the mullah's power obviously does not need the majority opinion. As is usually the case in international wars, it is not the people of the countries that is to be feared as much as their leadership. |
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03-05-2015, 09:02 AM
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I think this is the 1st time in months that I have read one of your posts. I think missed opportunities and poor decision making have hurt us there for many years prior to 2009.
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03-05-2015, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I think this is the 1st time in months that I have read one of your posts. I think missed opportunities and poor decision making have hurt us there for many years prior to 2009.
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Since your agreeing with Buckman, I asked about his assertion about 2009, not about many years before. |
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03-05-2015, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
The majority of Iranians do not hate America or Israel. It's a shame we didn't do more to help the people there form of democracy back in 2009 when they were trying so hard. Missed opportunities and poor or lack of decision making has really hurt this country.
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I've read that the religious demographic distribution in Iran is similar to the US actually in terms of conviction.
It always seems to be a shame when Obama didn't wave his magic want and make impossible situations perfect doesn't it?
The Green movement didn't have the momentum to really take shape. It's unfortunate but it's also reality. Don't ignore the history of the US meddling in Iranian affairs, we seem to have forgotten it but they haven't. |
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03-05-2015, 04:20 PM
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I. Don't ignore the history of the US meddling in Iranian affairs, we seem to have forgotten it but they haven't.
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Pretty ironic statement considering the rediculus deal being worked out by your hero
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03-05-2015, 05:21 PM
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Pretty ironic statement considering the rediculus deal being worked out by your hero
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Right.....
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03-05-2015, 06:06 PM
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Pretty ironic statement considering the rediculus deal being worked out by your hero
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Do you know anything about the deal? |
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03-05-2015, 07:06 PM
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Do you know anything about the deal?
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I do but of course I'm a tad bit more cynical of it then I imagine you are . But I'm in good company .
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03-05-2015, 07:13 PM
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I do but of course I'm a tad bit more cynical of it then I imagine you are . But I'm in good company .
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So how would you make it better?
Caveat, must have a chance of succeeding. |
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03-05-2015, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
So how would you make it better?
Caveat, must have a chance of succeeding.
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I believe we have hand in this .
Congress is moving on stronger sactions . They are working
The deal is a win for Iran . Sanctions reduced and long term plans for a nuclear weapon granted. Is that what you mean by succeed?
He's kicking a very dangerous can down the road .
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