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Old 01-28-2015, 08:50 AM   #1
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If you look at the support staff behind the candidates I would prefer the Bush v Clinton race. I think the big problems start when you get a person that comes from nowhere and does not have the Federal government experienced support staff to get things done. My guess is it might be hard to tell the difference between the two a lot of times over the course of the campaign.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:08 AM   #2
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If you look at the support staff behind the candidates I would prefer the Bush v Clinton race. I think the big problems start when you get a person that comes from nowhere and does not have the Federal government experienced support staff to get things done. My guess is it might be hard to tell the difference between the two a lot of times over the course of the campaign.
Your absolutely right. If the goal is to continue our present course, the Bush v Clinton race is ideal. No matter which one wins, nothing will change.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:25 AM   #3
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if we are at a point where only entrenched pols and family dynasties are capable of wielding the experienced support staff to get things done by harnessing the expanding bureaucracy....then we are truly screwed...

seems to me we don't elect politicians to be experts and anything in particular, we elect them to have good judgment in representing us
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:56 AM   #4
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if we are at a point where only entrenched pols and family dynasties are capable of wielding the experienced support staff to get things done by harnessing the expanding bureaucracy....then we are truly screwed...

seems to me we don't elect politicians to be experts and anything in particular, we elect them to have good judgment in representing us
I agree, I'm not a fan of oligarchies either. I just happen to like Jeb Bush a lot more than I like Hilary Clinton. I'm not sure Jeb is electable, as there is still a lot of "Bush fatigue" out there...
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:36 AM   #5
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Nobody mentioned John Kasich governor of Ohio....we do not need a jeb bush or hillary....R we going to be like the british and keep it in the family?

"When its not about money,it's all about money."...
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:33 AM   #6
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Nobody mentioned John Kasich governor of Ohio....we do not need a jeb bush or hillary....R we going to be like the british and keep it in the family?
He is doing some great things in Ohio, no doubt. From an electoral perspective, I like Jeb Bush with Kasich as his running mate. If that ticket could deliver Florida and Ohio, NOW we have a chance to win. I'm not saying that's my dream ticket (my dream ticket is Newt Gingrich and Condaleeza Rice), but that ticket has some serious electoral muscle behind it. The GOP ain't winning without Florida AND Ohio. Have to have them both. That ticket could well deliver those 2 key states...Romney picked Paul Ryan, who was absolutely useless. I like Ryan, but he couldn't even deliver his home state...

I really like John Kasich, good you brougt him up.

As I said, I don't lik ethe idea of political dynasties, it's not healthy. But if Jeb Bush i sth eonly candidate with a realistic chance to beat Hilary in the general, that's who I want running against her.

Not all dynasties are equally bad. The Bushes are made up of Clinton anti-matter...Couldn't be more diametrically opposite in terms of values (one family has values, one has none). That goes a long way with me.

Hilary lied through her teeth about getting shot at by snipers in Kosovo or somewhere. I still don't understand how that doesn't end her career right there.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:00 PM   #7
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I like Jeb Bush with Kasich as his running mate. If that ticket could deliver Florida and Ohio, NOW we have a chance to win.
That would be the only way to pair them up and I could see an argument made to the party that it's the only way to win.

I don't think there's anything to the Bush fatigue angle. Independent voters will go for the least worst like they always do and if it's a Bush/Clinton race it's a wash.

Hillary's secret weapon is Bill on the stump. I'd like to see her paired up with Jim Webb.

I agree with Duke that the GOP field in Iowa looked more like the F-Troop than a serious party.

That being said the GOP nomination will either go to Jeb or Walker.
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