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Old 01-08-2015, 11:19 AM   #1
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What a #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up world we live in. It's amazing what people will do to justify their imaginary friends and what they are willing to do to prove that their imaginary friend is better than yours.
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Some imaginary friends, in terms of "can't we all just get along", are better then other imaginary friends. They're even better than some real folks who pretend to be friends. Certainly better than real folks who pretend to be friends in order to more easily "turn" you to their way of thinking, even if it eventually means that you give up real freedoms for phony promised ones.

Really "real" friends would value you for your unique "person" and not try to mold you into a tool or drone for the maintenance of some utopianized society. That is, in-the-flesh real friends would accept you, warts and all, and not propose to make you a robotic version of a human being. Some imaginary friends (good ones?) have room in their paradise for the variety created by God, or Nature, or Random Accident (take your pick of "creator"). Really real friends also do.

In-the-flesh but phony friends secretly despise the infinite variety which makes it more difficult to operate an efficient, trouble free society. But real friends would ask, if you cannot accept them as they are, that you would not force them to accept you. That if the difference is so great, then disassociation would be more friendly than forced association.

"Real" friends are not necessarily better than "imaginary" ones. And if you believe the relativist, all are imaginary anyway. And if you believe the statist, only those who are servants of the state can be friends--all others are enemies of the imaginary public good or public friendship.

Back to the topic of the thread, "Paris,"--that horror is a slice of what to expect worldwide until the unfriendly enemy is defeated. The manner we seem to be using to defeat it is being as friendly to it as possible. That's a secular Christian-like gesture toward a very un-secular un-Christian non-friend. It might aid Christians to a quicker path to heaven, but might well lead secularists, and the rest of us with them, to a living "real" hell.

Why, in the face of demographic evidence, of forthright Islamic mission statements, and of expanding militant Islamic violence, do we keep turning a bruised cheek? Or, at best, resort to half measure retaliation? It doesn't make a lot of rational sense to allow the threat to grow larger until it becomes so apparently huge that only then, when the enemy has become stronger and stronger, only then to be serious about defeating it.

I wonder if, like the communist infiltration into the U.S government, and especially the FDR administration, of the 1930's and 1940's, which actually had an impact on our policies toward the Soviets, and China, and Japan, and was a factor in instigating the war with Japan, to the benefit of communism in the East--if something similar, perhaps on a smaller scale at this point, is happening by an infiltration of Islamists into our federal administration? We certainly, and strangely, seem to favor Islamists in our policies and rhetoric over old allies such as Israel. Just a thought.

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Old 01-08-2015, 12:54 PM   #2
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It doesn't make a lot of rational sense to allow the threat to grow larger until it becomes so apparently huge that only then, when the enemy has become stronger and stronger, only then to be serious about defeating it.

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It doesn't make any sense at all. It's a failure of not seeing the truth,we are at war with terrorists. It will be a different kind of war that we must prepare to fight. Sound familiar around 9/11 ???
Meantime over the last 6 years it's been bury your head in the sand, don't call it a war on terror, shackle our intelligence , fall asleep at the switch, manana, the blind leading the blind, and a day late and a dollar short.
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:55 PM   #3
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Sad, yet ironic that the policeman whose execution was shown worldwide was in fact a muslim, who died protecting the rights of others, at the hand of those professing the word of Islam....
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:40 PM   #4
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Sad, yet ironic that the policeman whose execution was shown worldwide was in fact a muslim, who died protecting the rights of others, at the hand of those professing the word of Islam....
Sad and ironic that he gave his life for others.

Deplorable that some feel we need to modify our truths and freedoms to placate those that are so backwards and oppressive.

Deplorable that some try to hoist Christianity to the same horrors as Radical Islam

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Old 01-09-2015, 09:32 AM   #5
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Sad and ironic that he gave his life for others.

Deplorable that some feel we need to modify our truths and freedoms to placate those that are so backwards and oppressive.

Deplorable that some try to hoist Christianity to the same horrors as Radical Islam

In unrelated news: http://www.catholicvote.org/catholic...nybody-in-2014
Great post, very dishonest to suggest that any other religion poses the threat that is posed by Islamic jihadists.

Interesting debate on some networks, on whether or not it was wise to publish the cartoons. I don't think so. Yes, we all have the freedoms to do things like that, but the fact that we have the freedom to do something, doesn't mean we have the obligation to do something.

I read that the publisher of that periodocal once said he'd "rather die on my feet than live on my knees". Three cheers for him, he got his wish. Unfortunately, his needlessly provoking the jihadists cost the life of the police officer, and now there's another hostage at risk. All for the ability to publish purposeless cartoons? Some things are worth risking lives for. I don't put the publication of silly doodles in that category.

If Salman Rushdie wants to put a bulls-eye on his own forehead, that's his business. But I don't want him announcing a book signing at my kids' nursery school.
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