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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Funny thing is that most people remember when he was campaigning for a second term and as he did all his fundraiser speaches up until recently. The words in the video his .
You conveniently found one instance ( maybe) that he may have used other words after his bragging .
What he said yesterday has no bearing on what he says tomorrow...
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Yes, he campaigned on a promise to end the war. That means removal of active combat troops which we did aside from the Marines at the embassy.

The Administration did want a force to run counter-terrorism activities and continue to train the Iraqi military which fell apart. That was reported back in 2011...it's not one instance.

Perhaps you're confusion on what Obama says tomorrow is that you don't really know what he said yesterday?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, he campaigned on a promise to end the war. That means removal of active combat troops which we did aside from the Marines at the embassy.

The Administration did want a force to run counter-terrorism activities and continue to train the Iraqi military which fell apart. That was reported back in 2011...it's not one instance.

Perhaps you're confusion on what Obama says tomorrow is that you don't really know what he said yesterday?

No, not true Spence and you know it. He claims credit for removing all troops from Iraq and he bragged about it . He also brags about a much improved economy, a much improved health care system, a much improved perspective of how the world sees us.
He has a lower credibility rating and approval rating than any president since Jimmy Carter. Actually I believe he's lower than Jimmy Carter.
Most Americans excluding yourself see him for who he is and what he has done .
Spin the crap all you want . You're wrong in every case.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

No, not true Spence and you know it. He claims credit for removing all troops from Iraq and he bragged about it . He also brags about a much improved economy, a much improved health care system, a much improved perspective of how the world sees us.
He has a lower credibility rating and approval rating than any president since Jimmy Carter. Actually I believe he's lower than Jimmy Carter.
Most Americans excluding yourself see him for who he is and what he has done .
Spin the crap all you want . You're wrong in every case.
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He took credit for ending the war which he did. Sorry if that's considered "bragging" but it's what politicians do.

It must be hard when you have a massive propaganda machine trying to destroy you to think you can actually believe you can take credit for something the majority of Americans actually wanted.

Shame on him...

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

He took credit for ending the war which he did. Sorry if that's considered "bragging" but it's what politicians do.

Big difference between ending a war through vicyory and leaving a war.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Big difference between ending a war through vicyory and leaving a war.

It is impossible to achieve victory in a war that is non conventional. The last clean victory we had was WW2 IMHO. Topple the goverment and it's leader and you win doesn't cut it anymore.
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[afterhours]

#8 is in the future.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Nebe

It is impossible to achieve victory in a war that is non conventional. The last clean victory we had was WW2 IMHO. Topple the goverment and it's leader and you win doesn't cut it anymore.
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Agree, and that is why Bush announced this was a "war on terror" and would have to be fought differently than a conventional war. Therefore the emphasis on intelligence and emphasis on special forces.
However, now we have a Commander in Chief that has downplayed the threat , won't call it a war on terror, would rather negotiate with savages if he could, doesn't have a strategy that our military would approve of and announces to the terrorists what he will and will not do. Sounds like a plan for victory. Every plan he has is based on politics.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Agree, and that is why Bush announced this was a "war on terror" and would have to be fought differently than a conventional war

And then got involved in a ground war (Iraq) unrelated to that......