Rep Trey Gpwdy articulates unanswered questions

[spence]

I guess the good thing is that when we reviews all the documents and testimony gathered over the previous 7 investigations he'll find answers to his questions.

Most politically motivated show trial in history.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I guess the good thing is that when we reviews all the documents and testimony gathered over the previous 7 investigations he'll find answers to his questions.

Most politically motivated show trial in history.
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Really ??? I guess you don't remember something that actually might have some similarities ...
Does Iran Contra ring a bell ?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Really ??? I guess you don't remember something that actually might have some similarities ...
Does Iran Contra ring a bell ?
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Got any evidence?
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Got any evidence?
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There are unsolved murders everyday ....doesn't mean they didn't happen .
The evidence is coming . Cover ups take time . If it were easy then even you would be convinced that there just possible could be something not quite right here .
Think of this as a house of cards ....
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

There are unsolved murders everyday ....doesn't mean they didn't happen .
The evidence is coming . Cover ups take time . If it were easy then even you would be convinced that there just possible could be something not quite right here .
Think of this as a house of cards ....
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Gowdy is not an ideological simpleton. I don't think he would've agreed to chair this committee unless he suspected (or knew for a fact) that there was something there.

I cannot wait.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Most politically motivated show trial in history.
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The good news is, soon we'll all know. Interesting that the GOP can't wait to start the hearings, and the Democrats want nothing to do with it. I find that revealing, I am sure you do not.

Gowdy is not a party hack. He was named a US attorney by one Bill Clinton. He's respected on your side, though I'd imagine not for long, as I suspect he's about to take a lot of powerful Democrats out to the woodshed.

I just hope it lasts until 2016...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Most politically motivated show trial in history.
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I thought that was the stained blue dress.....
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[Tagger]

Count them ,,, 13 ,,, Not a Peep .. http://www.policymic.com/articles/40...s-said-nothing

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

I guess the good thing is that when we reviews all the documents and testimony gathered over the previous 7 investigations he'll find answers to his questions.

The point of the investigation is ,to get "ALL" the documents, and testimony from the 6 that were on the ground that nobody has heard from.
A lot of drip, drip, drip, and stonewalling going on. Sixty one percent of the American People want the answers Gowdy outlined which is the purpose to get the at the unanswered questions.
Like I said a simple truth telling address to the American People by
the President and Hillary would clear it up in no time. If there is nothing to hide what's the problem ?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by justplugit

If there is nothing to hide what's the problem ?

We all already know the answer to that one...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

We all already know the answer to that one...

Don't you think that after so many (7 or 8) investigations, tens of thousands of documents, dozens of testimonies and participation by non-partisan and high ranking 40 year veterans of our military...that someone would think due diligence has been done?

Back in the day it would have long since been.

Wake up.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Don't you think that after so many (7 or 8) investigations, tens of thousands of documents, dozens of testimonies and participation by non-partisan and high ranking 40 year veterans of our military...that someone would think due diligence has been done?

Back in the day it would have long since been.

Wake up.

-spence

So where was the President during the time these brave men were fighting for their life's and begging for help ?
I missed that testimony
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

So where was the President during the time these brave men were fighting for their life's and begging for help ?
I missed that testimony
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I'm not sure it's vital for me to know whether he was at Pebble Beach or Augusta, because he has the ability to implement decisions from anywhere, at least from any golf course or Jay-Z concert.

I'm supposed to believe that Susan Rice went on the Sunday morning talk shows, because the SecState doesn't like Sunday morning talk shows? I don't give a frog's fat ass what she likes, her ambassador was murdered after his requests for extra security were denied, so it's her responsibility. If she was sending hate mail to Monica Lewinski, she could take a morning off and do the talk show circuit.

Watch how fast she suddenly decides she likes those shows when she's running for President and they promise a friendly interview.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Don't you think that after so many (7 or 8) investigations, tens of thousands of documents, dozens of testimonies and participation by non-partisan and high ranking 40 year veterans of our military...that someone would think due diligence has been done?

Back in the day it would have long since been.

Wake up.

-spence

Spence, let's let it play out, and see if anything new is uncovered.

You sound a little nervous about the hearings. I wonder why that is.

Spence, were special forces soldiers told to get to Benghazi ASAP? When was that order given.

And I'm sorry, as I have said (and as Gowdy said) when the administration justifies not sending in special forces because "they couldn't have gotten there in time", when obviously they had no way of knowing how long the attack would last, that alone tells me that either there is a cover up, or someone is too stupid to have the job they are in.

The House, led by the GOP, is getting this hearing. Spence, someone you absolutely adore once said "elections have consequences". Well, here you go.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, let's let it play out, and see if anything new is uncovered.

I don't think the Select Committee has any greater subpoena power than the Issa Committees have.

Spence, were special forces soldiers told to get to Benghazi ASAP? When was that order given.

And I'm sorry, as I have said (and as Gowdy said) when the administration justifies not sending in special forces because "they couldn't have gotten there in time", when obviously they had no way of knowing how long the attack would last, that alone tells me that either there is a cover up, or someone is too stupid to have the job they are in.

This has been beaten to death. What I find amazing is that when dozens of top officials all come to the same conclusion there's still a conspiracy...one that would require the collusion of hundreds of people.

I'll say it again, the primary goal of the GOP is to use Benghazi to raise campaign cash and drag it into the mid-term election.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think the Select Committee has any greater subpoena power than the Issa Committees have.


This has been beaten to death. What I find amazing is that when dozens of top officials all come to the same conclusion there's still a conspiracy...one that would require the collusion of hundreds of people.

I'll say it again, the primary goal of the GOP is to use Benghazi to raise campaign cash and drag it into the mid-term election.

-spence

"This has been beaten to death"

All due respect, you keep saying that, but not once have you provided specifics. I'm not suggesting that nothing was done, I just don't know exactly what was done. And I'm also telling you that you are 100% incorrect when you suggest it takes hours for a quick response team to get in the air. These guys are, in effect, "on call". Maybe not quite as simple as putting on a fire helmet and hopping in a fire truck. But the time it takes to get them airborne is measured in minutes, not hours. You can plan while you are in the air. You can decide not to engage. But you have to have someone there, as soon as physically possible, so you at least have the option of engaging. Did that happen?

"dozens of top officials all come to the same conclusion "

Is that what happened? How about the high-ranking guy who said we could, and should, have done more? I posted that, you said soimething to the effect that he changed his mind.

Trey Gowdy said in his statement (watch the video), that he doesn't have access to witnesses. Is he lying? If so, and I'm serious, let's impeach Gowdy. Do you have evidence he's lying?

Do we know who, exactly, denied Stevens' request for extra security? And why? And what happened to that person? Were they fired, or given a promotion?

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

testimony from the 6 that were on the ground that nobody has heard from.

They already testified in October to a House Intelligence Commitee.

Oh, is this news?
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

They already testified in October to a House Intelligence Commitee.

Oh, is this news?
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Yes, this is news to me, I haven't been able to find anything on the 6
sent to Germany having been interviewed.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Yes, this is news to me, I haven't been able to find anything on the 6
sent to Germany having been interviewed.

The survivors who were CIA agents testified behind closed doors.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ersi/?page=all

The others were interviewed by the FBI just after the attack. They're prohibited from speaking publicly by their non-disclosure agreements. CBS reported in 2013 these transcripts were turned over to Congress and they were interviewed again during the State investigation.

They'd also likely be protected as whistle blowers if they were revealing criminal wrong-doing.

There's plenty of reporting on this stuff.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

There's plenty of reporting on this stuff.

-spence

Good one ! Been reported to death YOU might say
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Good one ! Been reported to death YOU might say
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Are you mocking the casualties?

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

There's plenty of reporting on this stuff.

-spence

Yes, but not all. Let's get it ALL on the table and come to a final conclusion.
That should satisfy both sides and bring closure for the families.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Yes, but not all. Let's get it ALL on the table and come to a final conclusion.
That should satisfy both sides and bring closure for the families.

And if it doesn't reach a different conclusion from Mullen et al., the problem is, this issue will STILL be raised as a political item right up to 2016,

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Yes, but not all. Let's get it ALL on the table and come to a final conclusion.
That should satisfy both sides and bring closure for the families.

You'll never have everything, it's not possible. These investigations usually reach a point that satisfies the most important elements.

Do security issues persist at other US missions? Have internal escalation issues been addressed?

This is the most important stuff and something you don't hear from the GOP…because that's not their real concern…gotchya politics at it's best and at taxpayer expense.

That's why this issue is now driven by conspiracies desperate for evidence...

-spence