Ukraine

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

He reset the clock all the way back to the Cold War . This is embarrassing .
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It is embarrassing. But he is damned no matter what he does. If he did nothing.. he's viewed as a weak president. If he acts, he is kicking us back into the cold war... no win here...

its better to have a huge mystery to distract everyone, like a missing plane.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

It is embarrassing. But he is damned no matter what he does. If he did nothing.. he's viewed as a weak president. If he acts, he is kicking us back into the cold war... no win here...

its better to have a huge mystery to distract everyone, like a missing plane.

He needs to stop making threats he can't back up. The three idiots should just keep their mouth shut.
His policies are all over the place. We arm Al Qaeda, but we can't send arms to the Ukrainians. His spoken words make matters worse .
I agree stay out of it .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

He needs to stop making threats he can't back up. The three idiots should just keep their mouth shut.
His policies are all over the place. We arm Al Qaeda, but we can't send arms to the Ukrainians. His spoken words make matters worse .
I agree stay out of it .
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Be specific.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Be specific.

-spence

In Obamas world this is specific
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

In Obamas world this is specific
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We said we'd work with the EU to impose sanctions and that's exactly what happened. It's an annoyance more than anything but there's not a lot we can do short-term.

It's a great opportunity to make fun of the President though, keep up the good work

-spence

[justplugit]

It's not making fun of the President, It's looking at the Administrations Policy
failures and misjudgments.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

It's not making fun of the President, It's looking at the Administrations Policy
failures and misjudgments.

What specific Obama Administration policy is a failure? If anything this represents a lack of long-term strategy to contain Russia's influence.

-spence

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by justplugit

It's not making fun of the President, It's looking at the Administrations Policy
failures and misjudgments.

I think Spence is prob. still waiting for you to tell use about the failures and misjudgements.

I'd also like to hear what Pres. Obama should have done differently re Ukraine. And also pls. contrast that with what Pres. Bush did about the Russian invasion of Georgia so we can see the difference.

Thanks

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by buckman

I agree stay out of it .
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That's exactly what Putin planned all along after sizing up the administration's
actions, laying down red lines without back up, Kerry saying "sanctions would not be personal to Putin", and all the way back to the apology tour.
The statement by the President that because we are not in the 19th century and things have changed since, is so naïve. Human nature has never changed from day one. POWER will always be the ultimate goal.
Heard a statement the other day, "it's the KGB vs the PTA."