Ukraine

[Nebe]

Putin was made to look like a fool at Sochi. This is his attempt at redemption.
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[Sea Dangles]

There are enough Russian nationalists in Ukraine to warrant protective measures. We are always telling other nations what to do but I have a feeling if the shoe were on the other foot we may be whistling a different tune. Do you honestly feel if Block Island chose to become independent we would wish them good luck?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

There are enough Russian nationalists in Ukraine to warrant protective measures. We are always telling other nations what to do but I have a feeling if the shoe were on the other foot we may be whistling a different tune. Do you honestly feel if Block Island chose to become independent we would wish them good luck?

That begs the question was/is there really a threat to the Russian speaking Ukrainians? Most of those dead so far were shot by the old government's police.

Primarily this appears to be about Putin trying to stop the power shift towards the EU. His bribe to the former president didn't appear to work as planned...

-spence

[Sea Dangles]

Security is paramount and breeds some odd partnerships.We exploit countries every day to protect US interests.Does that make it wrong?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Security is paramount and breeds some odd partnerships.We exploit countries every day to protect US interests.Does that make it wrong?

Did I say it was wrong?

-spence

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Did I say it was wrong?

-spence

I thought it was implied,but as is usually the case with you jeff,something was lost in translation.I will bow out now before I am baited into discourse which relies heavily on semantics, and facts and opinions become blurred by your imagination.

But I still look forward to making a fishing trip happen this year. Please bring Nebe to translate, I often don't understand what you are trying to convey.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I thought it was implied,but as is usually the case with you jeff,something was lost in translation.I will bow out now before I am baited into discourse which relies heavily on semantics, and facts and opinions become blurred by your imagination.

But I still look forward to making a fishing trip happen this year. Please bring Nebe to translate, I often don't understand what you are trying to convey.

Playing devil's advocate is hard work. I hope you're not tired out.

-spence

[justplugit]

" Obama would be wise to seek Russia to defer Russian aggression without
specifying too clearly what the US ladder of escalation might be." Ignatius, WP.

Putin is in the catbird seat carrying the "Big Stick" and will do what he wants.
We have become like Casper the Ghost carrying a tooth pick and planning to cut our military in half. True peace comes from strength ,not weakness, without it there is nothing to negotiate with.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Putin is in the catbird seat carrying the "Big Stick" and will do what he wants.
We have become like Casper the Ghost carrying a tooth pick and planning to cut our military in half. True peace comes from strength ,not weakness, without it there is nothing to negotiate with.

Nonsense. The Russian economy is nothing without access to western banking, trade and his ability to sell natural gas to the EU at a premium.

Aside from China it looks like there's already strong alignment between the US and EU.

It's amazing how fast the Right jumped on the opportunity to divide Americans. I'll give the GOP this, they haven't proposed any meaningful policy in a decade, but their one liners are priceless.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

It's amazing how fast the Right jumped on the opportunity to divide Americans. I'll give the GOP this, they haven't proposed any meaningful policy in a decade, but their one liners are priceless.

-spence

Never mind mirrors , I don't think you have any windows.

List the "meaningful " Democrat policies
By that I mean good ones
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[justplugit]

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[QUOTE=spence;1033929]Nonsense. The Russian economy is nothing without access to western banking, trade and his ability to sell natural gas to the EU at a premium.
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EU will have to want to take the big blows here.

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It's amazing how fast the Right jumped on the opportunity to divide Americans. I'll give the GOP this, they haven't proposed any meaningful policy in a decade, but their one liners are priceless.
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Spence get real, this current administration has done more to divide our country then anytime I can ever remember in my life time.
Palin and Romney both brought up the possibility of a possible geo political Ukraine issue and were put down by the great forward leftist thinkers. Lets think about the pressing global warming.