MSNBC host says vile things aboput Gov Palin

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Once you realize that cable news networks are geared towards entertainment and ratings based advertisement revenue you begin to realize that it's all a big joke.
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The thing is, MSNBC doesn't get ratings. No one watches it, and they know that. So they aren't doing it for ratings, they are doing it purely for hate's sake. Directed, in this case, at a woman who has enough compassion and empathy to love and raise a child with Downs Syndrome. God knows that most liberal women would have made a different choice.

Palin has endured more viscious personal attacke sthan any politician in my lifetime, yet liberals claim to be the side that cares about women. These people have no shame, none whatsoever.

[RIROCKHOUND]

[Quote=FlyRod] Look at the person that said that....he is vile....comes from a country that hates women...treats them worse then cattle ...keeps them un educated. [Quote]

The U.K.?

Bashir is a scum bag who stirs the pot on purpose. cant/wont watch his show or Al Sharptons, as I find they usually lack and real substance and focus on the noise of politics. I find Bashir condescending and a blind idealog. That being said, this is no worse than the crap that folks like Ann Coulter or Alex Jones, who probably have similar or larger audiences of influences than Bashir.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Palin has endured more viscious personal attacke sthan any politician in my lifetime, yet liberals claim to be the side that cares about women. These people have no shame, none whatsoever.

Give me a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing break. wah, only the left says evil things. Nothing is EVER said bad about the current president, right? No one questions where he came from, or his motivations, or his hatred of his country? Palin is a grand-stander, period. She bailed out of her term as governor to make money, and hell, won't even go on O'Rielly b/c he might disagree with her and she'd have to defend her self.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Directed, in this case, at a woman who has enough compassion and empathy to love and raise a child with Downs Syndrome. God knows that most liberal women would have made a different choice.

Probably one of the most disrespectful thing you have ever said about liberals. You are right, most liberal women would have gone the infanticide route...

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=RIROCKHOUND;1022338][Quote=FlyRod] Look at the person that said that....he is vile....comes from a country that hates women...treats them worse then cattle ...keeps them un educated.

The U.K.?

Bashir is a scum bag who stirs the pot on purpose. cant/wont watch his show or Al Sharptons, as I find they usually lack and real substance and focus on the noise of politics. I find Bashir condescending and a blind idealog. That being said, this is no worse than the crap that folks like Ann Coulter or Alex Jones, who probably have similar or larger audiences of influences than Bashir.



Give me a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing break. wah, only the left says evil things. Nothing is EVER said bad about the current president, right? No one questions where he came from, or his motivations, or his hatred of his country? Palin is a grand-stander, period. She bailed out of her term as governor to make money, and hell, won't even go on O'Rielly b/c he might disagree with her and she'd have to defend her self.




Probably one of the most disrespectful thing you have ever said about liberals. You are right, most liberal women would have gone the infanticide route...

"Give me a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing break. wah, only the left says evil things. Nothing is EVER said bad about the current president"

Excuse me, give me the break. I never, ever said that conservatives never stoop to that level. What I said, and I am correct, is that your side took mud-slinging to new heights (or depths, more accurately) with Sarah Palin. My favorite, they said that her Down's Syndrome child was not actually her child, but rather the child of her daughter. You tell me, when did conservatives use a mentally challenged child as club to beat their political opponents with? I'm all ears...They went after her clothes, her family, her children. I've never seen it before or since...

I deon't "question" Obama's loathing for what this country stands for, because there is no longer any quyestion about the issue...he hates what we stand for. His wife hates this country (not proud of it till he got the nomination), his spiritual mentor is a deranged lunatic who hates the country, and his political mentor (Bill Ayers) is a lunatic who clearly hates the country. I say that, I support it with irrefutable evidence, so it's not nearly as vile as going after a Downs Syndrome baby for Chrissakes.

I was not a Palin fan, by the way, not as a VP candidate. That said, the democrat attacks were dispicable (the personal and family attacks...questioning her abilities and policies is obviously fair game).

"She bailed out of her term as governor to make money, and hell, won't even go on O'Rielly b/c he might disagree with her "

Those are absolutely fair, legitimate criticisms.

"You are right, most liberal women would have gone the infanticide route... "

Damn right they would have., You deny that? Liberal women aren't more likely to choose abortion of a Downs syndrome baby than conservative women? You deny that? Really?

"Palin is a grand-stander, period"

Yes, that's why she chose to raise all of her kids without domestic help, because she is a grandstander. That's why she took on the challengs of raising a special needs child, one of the most difficult, gut-wrenching challenges in the entire human experience. she only took that on because she is a grandstander. When she got picked, she had the highest approval ratings of all 50 governors...that doesn't imply that she has any abilities, nope, she only got that ranking because of her grandstanding. Nothing more.

Is she a grandstander? Sure. Is that "all" she is? Hell, no.

[Jim in CT]

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Originally Posted by FlyRod

Probably one of the most disrespectful thing you have ever said about liberals.

I want to be clear on this...if I say that a Downs syndrome fetus has abetter chance of survival if his mother is conservative rather than liberal...you disagree with that? You deny that liberal women are mor likely to choose abortion than conservative women? Please tell me, on what basis would you disagree with my statement?

[Jackbass]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1022349]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I want to be clear on this...if I say that a Downs syndrome fetus has abetter chance of survival if his mother is conservative rather than liberal...you disagree with that? You deny that liberal women are mor likely to choose abortion than conservative women? Please tell me, on what basis would you disagree with my statement?

I think the argument is kind of off putting and in poor taste in general. The whole subject of abortion is extremely personal to many. To add a wrinkle like that is in poor taste. I agree with many of your view points but this is over the top.
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[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=Jackbass;1022353]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I think the argument is kind of off putting and in poor taste in general. The whole subject of abortion is extremely personal to many. To add a wrinkle like that is in poor taste. I agree with many of your view points but this is over the top.
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I absolutely concede it's a touchy issue that strikes a nerve with many. What I think is more over the top, is a policial side that has no issue with using that little boy as a club to beat his mother with, just because she was polling well when she was first picked. She's not running for anything now, I can't see how she's a threat to liberalsim, but they still hate her, and 'hate' is an drastic understatement.

And if the pro-abortion crowd feels like they are being insulted when someone like me calls them pro-abortion, I cannot help but wonder...if they take that categorization as an insult, why do they support it? I feel clean and proud to be accurately categorized by my position on this issue. If I was ashamed of what I believed, I'd change my beliefs.

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=RIROCKHOUND;1022338]

Originally Posted by FlyRod

Bashir is a scum bag :

I agree with you, but this is about more than Bashir. He was not disciplined. Neither MSNBC nor NBC, as far as I know, has made any statement denouncing what Bashir said. There is only one way to interpret that, and that is that NBC isn't concerned with what he said. So NBC is tacitly coimplicit in this, if not explicitly complicit. NBC is a major, mainstream network. They paid this guy to make that statement.