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10-06-2013, 04:50 PM
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Well, most businesses run with some debt. When managed right it's not a problem and can even be an asset as long as you have cash flow...
But the ability to acquire debt when you do need it is pretty critical. It's actually how our entire economy runs. That's a big reason why so many large companies are sitting on cash these days.
-spence
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10-06-2013, 06:37 PM
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let's not get too technical Spence
this is a fun thread (i believe} and Not a Business administration thread.
If what Bobber says is in Fact true....
and everyone just "plays" along by continuously Pretending
then this is "Fantasy Land"... and who's in charge of it...ALL
the Royal King of Pure Deception ....Mr Transparency himself... 
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10-07-2013, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Well, most businesses run with some debt. When managed right it's not a problem and can even be an asset as long as you have cash flow...
-spence
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"when managed right"
If we are talking about the government here, well there is your problem right there. Managed right? can't you just admit it has NOT been managed right?
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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10-07-2013, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
"when managed right"
If we are talking about the government here, well there is your problem right there. Managed right? can't you just admit it has NOT been managed right?
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Milton Friedman, the famous economist, once highlighted that spending money always falls into 1 of 4 categories...
(1) spending your money on yourself - when you spend your own money on yourself, you have every reason to do it as efficiently as possible...the best quality at the best price. This is efficient spending.
(2) spending other people's money on yourself - in this case, you are likely to look for the highest quality, ragerdless of price. This is what happens when ex-wives go shopping at Tiffany's with their former husband's credit cards.
(3) spending your money on other people - in this category, you have an incentive to get the lowest price, regardless of quality. This is why we get socks at Christmas from distant relatives.
(4) spending other people's money on other people - in this case, you have no incentive to give a crap about quality or price. This is where the most inefficiency is seen. And every cent that is spent by the government, falls into this categoty. That's how you get where we are,
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10-07-2013, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
"when managed right"
If we are talking about the government here, well there is your problem right there. Managed right? can't you just admit it has NOT been managed right?
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Spence has acknowledged that it has not been managed right. He believes that it can be fixed if government folks would simply act responsibly. He doesn't say what "responsibly" is. If it means spending less, or reducing the scope of government so that less money is needed to manage it, that would be asking the gvt. to relinquish some power and devolve it back to the people--to give back to the people responsibilities and cash to manage their own lives. But that would require the leap of faith by our political managers that we are capable of taking care of ourselves with a lot less "help" from them. That they could suffer such a blow to their egos, or to their agendas, to their ideology, is questionable.
The "problem" is not how they manage, but who they are and what they believe. That determines what they consider "responsible" to be.
And the problem also requires that We The People actually believe we are capable of living without the ever expanding "help" we receive from those who wish to manage us. That depends on who we are and what we believe.
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10-07-2013, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
That they could suffer such a blow to their egos, or to their agendas, to their ideology, is questionable.
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I don't think it's questionable, I don't think there's any ambiguity there. Not only are those in DC unwilling to surrender the ontrol they have, they are looking to increase it. Hence Obamacare.
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10-07-2013, 12:59 PM
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thanks
next time I am in Boston, I'll go by the statehouse and puke on the front steps
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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10-08-2013, 05:21 AM
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speaking of Puke
our exportation of products is relatively non existent
so we need to switch over to services and let the rich countries
pay us with "their wealth"..... in my limited view (perspective)anyways
no more world cop for free.... isolationism is sounding better again
no more giving countries like pukistan billions
no more Nation rebuilding
AMERICAN INTERESTS have to return to AMERICA not force feeding
DEMOCRACY down the throats of screaming babies that just puke it back up onto American shirts.
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10-08-2013, 07:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
our exportation of products is relatively non existent
so we need to switch over to services and let the rich countries
pay us with "their wealth"..... in my limited view (perspective)anyways
no more world cop for free.... isolationism is sounding better again
no more giving countries like pukistan billions
no more Nation rebuilding
AMERICAN INTERESTS have to return to AMERICA not force feeding
DEMOCRACY down the throats of screaming babies that just puke it back up onto American shirts.
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In terms of debt, I'm not sure those are the big ticket items. In the not-too-distant future, there will be at least 65 million baby boomers over the age of 65. Some of them will live to be 110 years old. They will live with ailments, requiring expensive medical care, for decades. And we can't begin to pay for it. Our elected officials, from both parties (until recently), have chosen to ignore this problem. It will be a disaster.
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10-08-2013, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Raven
our exportation of products is relatively non existent 
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What are you talking about?
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