Lottery winner continues to collect food stamps...

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

She used the EBT card to buy the lottery ticket and she has 2 houses to support. Give the poor thing a break.
When the voters on the take outnumber the voters that work hard for a living we will be all screwed. I'm thinking 5 years from now will do it.

Already the case in Maine.
Welfare recipients outnumber taxpayers Don Surber

I've been saying for well over a year now that we will eventually face a situation like the one that happened in the UK - massive, drastic cuts in welfare spending, government "employees" (another form of welfare) and other social programs. There has to come a point of retraction.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

government "employees" (another form of welfare)

I'd like to congratulate the Welfare Recipients from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard for coming in ahead of schedule and under budget....way to do nothing and collect a paycheck...

USS San Francisco Leaves Dry Dock in Record Time
Release Date: 11/1/2011 9:03:00 PM 1 Comment

SAN DIEGO (NNS) -- USS San Francisco (SSN 711) left dry dock Arco (ARDM 5) at Naval Base Point Loma, Nov. 1.

The Los Angeles-class, fast-attack submarine pulled into dry dock June 30, for an extensive docking availability, the largest shipyard work period ever performed at Arco.

"This type of availability normally takes a little over nine months; however, team San Francisco, Arco, and Portsmouth Naval Shipyard got the submarine in and out of dry dock in four months - a record," said Lt. Cmdr. Mack Schmidt, Arco's commanding officer. "The Arco's officers and crew performed exceptionally well, ensuring all docking-related key events were completed early, with zero incidents or accidents."

The crew that made up this dry docking evolution included Sailors from both San Francisco and Arco, as well as personnel from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard.

"I have been in the Navy 20 years and I have never come out of a dry dock early," said Lt. Eric Underwood, supply officer of San Francisco. "It was a great concerted effort between San Francisco, Arco, and the shipyard. By coming out of dry dock early we saved the government more than a million dollars."

In addition to providing the routine docking support, dry dock Arco was also tasked with painting San Francisco's hull and executing intensive crane operations in support of the availability.

"Everything went really smoothly and everyone worked very fast and efficiently," said Electronics Technician 1st Class Alpha Ramadan, assigned to San Francisco. "We are just glad to be back in the water; that is where we belong."

San Francisco now plans to focus on crew certifications and qualifications and their upcoming inspections in preparation for their next deployment.

"Both the docking and undocking evolution were executed very professionally," said Schmidt. "I am extremely proud of each and every crew member."

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I'd like to congratulate the Welfare Recipients from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard for coming in ahead of schedule and under budget....way to do nothing and collect a paycheck...

Exceptions do not make the rule. I'd be for every government employee that's effective and efficient, there are 5 others that sit around and do absolutely nothing. With all due respect to our soldiers that risk their lives, the US military is anything but financially efficient.

While in Vegas last month, I saw someone win $120k on a slot machine. Does that mean any of the talk about people losing money in Vegas is false and we should all run out there, play the slots and we'll all leave with riches?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Exceptions do not make the rule. I'd be for every government employee that's effective and efficient, there are 5 others that sit around and do absolutely nothing. With all due respect to our soldiers that risk their lives, the US military is anything but financially efficient.

Financially efficient has to do with the budgeting processes...and I will be the first one to agree that it is hosed up....mega hosed up

that doesn't mean that the majority of people are sitting around doing nothing and collecting a paycheck.

your statement wasn't that the government wasn't financially efficient...your statement was that government employees are another form of welfare....

and you are also off on your "Bet"....I wouldn't say it is a 1 to 5 ratio.

I'd give you a 10 to 1 ratio....for every 10 employees that work...there's one slug...I work with one, guys friggin useless...but the other 7 people I work with come in, on time, and work a full day for a full day's pay

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I'd give you a 10 to 1 ratio....for every 10 employees that work...there's one slug...I work with one, guys friggin useless...but the other 7 people I work with come in, on time, and work a full day for a full day's pay

What does he do,surf fishing websites all day? How is the glass house today?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

your statement wasn't that the government wasn't financially efficient...your statement was that government employees are another form of welfare....

and you are also off on your "Bet"....I wouldn't say it is a 1 to 5 ratio.

I'd give you a 10 to 1 ratio....for every 10 employees that work...there's one slug...I work with one, guys friggin useless...but the other 7 people I work with come in, on time, and work a full day for a full day's pay

I can only account for personal experience and the experiences I'm told about by close friends. The reason I say 1 to 5 is because there are examples of uselessness throughout every government agency. 80% is certainly an exaggerated number but I'd seriously wager that in many government jobs at least 25% of those employed are useless.

For 4 years I volunteered as an assistant director of a high school after school program. I was at the school 3-4 days/week for 4 months per year. The 4-5 janitors sat in the back closet all day and watched tv or played cards, the 3 groundsmen hung out in the field shed watching tv or sleeping during the winter, a large portion of the teachers didn't give a damn about anything and 5-7 secretaries in the office that grumble all day. Just from what I saw for 4 years, a school that was $2million over budget could have eliminated at least 5 or 6 shlubs and would have saved close to $500k/year.

My current work has me contracting with schools, towns and the state quite regularly. One day I'm working at a school, the next day I'm working in the Capitol Building and the next day I'm at the Moakley Federal Courthouse. I probably work directly with 20-30 gov't employees per year and encounter hundreds over the course of my contracted work.

I'd say a minimum of 1 out of every 3 people I encounter are there just so that they don't have to be off doing something else or have nothing at all to do - 3 security guards to monitor 1 loading dock, an extra electrician whose job is solely to "make sure the lights are turned on", not to mention it takes a 1 hour onsite meeting with 4 people to decide which direction tables and chairs should face.

Just like with all generalizations, there will be exceptions. You seem to work in an area that is efficient and effective. You and the people that you work with should be commended, because that is not the norm.

And I'm not just talking about your labor-oriented positions. There's even more waste and uselessness when you start talking about government employees that wear a suit to work.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I'd like to congratulate the Welfare Recipients from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard for coming in ahead of schedule and under budget....way to do nothing and collect a paycheck...

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TDF, I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate (confidently) that Johnny wasn't talking about all government employees, rather those that have a work ethic that, shall we say, would leave something to be desired. We all know that the public sector attracts those types of people, as they can't justify their salary in the private sector.

Johnny, I agree with you 100%. Just like what's happening in Europe, there will come a point in this country when people finally realize how much money we're bleeding on these programs, and when the checks start bouncing, the necessary cuts will be made. I expect the reaction here will be similar to the reaction in Europe - riots.

That's why I'm working as hard as I can to pay all my txes NOW, because I have to believe tax rates will skyrocket in the future.

10,000 baby boomers a day turn 65, and that'll be the average for the next 20 years. 10,000 a day. We don't have enough money to give them the social security benefits they expect, and for damn sure we don't have nearly enough money to give them the Medicare benefits they are expecting. At some point, the effect of the Baby Boomers will be the straw that broke the camel's back, there's no stopping it.

And you have to hand it to liberals to design a welfare program where winning one million dollars in the lottery, doesn't make you ineligible for food stamps. Kudos, liberals. Kudos to you all. Well done. I say to thee, yeah!