year 2010 recreational catch statistics

[stripermaineiac]

The worst part of the stupidity is when 3000 comercial guys really do beleive they have the same quantity rights as 3,000,000 recreational fishermen and women. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but seems a little skewed to me. Don't really give a damn most of the time now about the comercial arguement that they have the right to 50 percent of the stocks out there. reallity is that their logic has been screwey since day one. It is stupid at best and sad at worst. I kept a handfull of fish Cowhunter. You have no more right to anymore fish than I do. don't really care if your comercial or not. No one fisherman has more right than the next. BUT WE ALL HAVE THE
SAME RESPONSABILITY TO CONSERVE THE SPEICIES.The rec catch is 70 percent lower than 2005 for the rec. Means a lot of people don't catch squat anymore. Seems that the problems still comes down to selfishness. Commercials seem to never want to stop no matter how bad it gets unless they're forced to. Don't see an 20,000 recreational fish kills. MMMM funny that isn't it. Don't see a whole hell of a lot of catch an release among commercials unless it's to cull MMMMMM seems we just saw commercials idea of catch an release ooooppppssss no one said the fish had to be alive to have a chance.Just throw them overboard to get them out of the way for bigger market fish.We worked hard in the past to force the morritorium we'll just have to do it again no matter how much lieing is done. Sad for it to have to be this way. 36 in won't work we've been there .1 fish won't work we've been there.0 catch seemed to help especially when the commercial fishery was totally shut down. MMMMMM even with 30,000 commercials seems that 3,000,000 recreational has enough votes to force the issue.That's a low estimate on the REC numbers too.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by stripermaineiac

The worst part of the stupidity is when 3000 comercial guys really do beleive they have the same quantity rights as 3,000,000 recreational fishermen and women. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but seems a little skewed to me. Don't really give a damn most of the time now about the comercial arguement that they have the right to 50 percent of the stocks out there. reallity is that their logic has been screwey since day one. It is stupid at best and sad at worst. I kept a handfull of fish Cowhunter. You have no more right to anymore fish than I do. don't really care if your comercial or not. No one fisherman has more right than the next. BUT WE ALL HAVE THE
SAME RESPONSABILITY TO CONSERVE THE SPEICIES.The rec catch is 70 percent lower than 2005 for the rec. Means a lot of people don't catch squat anymore. Seems that the problems still comes down to selfishness. Commercials seem to never want to stop no matter how bad it gets unless they're forced to. Don't see an 20,000 recreational fish kills. MMMM funny that isn't it. Don't see a whole hell of a lot of catch an release among commercials unless it's to cull MMMMMM seems we just saw commercials idea of catch an release ooooppppssss no one said the fish had to be alive to have a chance.Just throw them overboard to get them out of the way for bigger market fish.We worked hard in the past to force the morritorium we'll just have to do it again no matter how much lieing is done. Sad for it to have to be this way. 36 in won't work we've been there .1 fish won't work we've been there.0 catch seemed to help especially when the commercial fishery was totally shut down. MMMMMM even with 30,000 commercials seems that 3,000,000 recreational has enough votes to force the issue.That's a low estimate on the REC numbers too.

I never said anybody has the right to catch more fish..... Youre allowed your limit every day, Everybody I know keeps theres rec or com, thats their perogative. I dont see any catch and release unless the guys already caught their limits. Just how I see it for the most part... And yeah your right 3,000,000 anglers if they all kept their limit once a season thats alot of fish. You want to end commercial fishing thats fine, thats your opinion but it want solve anything its just more fish for recs to kill if their limits arent changed not gonna change any if the same regs are in place and the bait issue is the same.... And the 1 at 36" did make a huge different up and down the coast. In the end, the same guys bitchin will be bitchin and the same guys catchin will be catchin just takes some effort. Enjoy the run in Maine, maybe some fish will make it up that way agian one year! Heard the lobstermen had a record 360million harvest in 2010, not to long ago the lobster were near extinction to?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

I never said anybody has the right to catch more fish..... Youre allowed your limit every day, Everybody I know keeps theres rec or com, thats their perogative. I dont see any catch and release unless the guys already caught their limits.

I didn't have a banner season, but I could have taken one home most nights and killed 4 all season that were gut hooked bleeders.

I think you are overly generalizing what does on.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I didn't have a banner season, but I could have taken one home most nights and killed 4 all season that were gut hooked bleeders.

I think you are overly generalizing what does on.

I know there are exceptions.... Unfortunately I dont see many of them...

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

Everybody I know keeps theres rec or com, thats their perogative. I dont see any catch and release unless the guys already caught their limits.

Sad

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Sad

Sorry Numbskull, just how it is for the most part... I know there are those that practice C&R, Unfortunately I rarely see it...

[MikeToole]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

I never said anybody has the right to catch more fish..... Youre allowed your limit every day,

So you don't believe in commercial fishing for stripers either. Cause that is exactly what a commercial license is doing, giving you the right to catch more fish then the general public.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by MikeToole

So you don't believe in commercial fishing for stripers either. Cause that is exactly what a commercial license is doing, giving you the right to catch more fish then the general public.

Yes for 18-21 days or so in Mass u can keep and sell 30 a day..On the other hand I can fish stripers 12 months a year recreationally if I wanted to, and in NJ we can buy bonus tags and keep an extra fish every day till the quota is filled, 360,000lbs or so.. I can run 2 charters a day in NJ and come back to the dock with boat limits of 8-10 fish, (Even more if everyone has a tag 12-15)a trip, 7 days a week during the season... Now you guys up north dont see pressure, you should see the 100's of NY,NJ boats for miles that will make the MA com rod and reelers look like a tiny speck... Yeah we can go on.
Knock down the rec catch to one fish.. The com catch I could care less what they do, but it aint going away so Ill fish it, after all its gonna get filled with or without me anyway, (Or you can sit home like Sandman and Complain About it), at least there is a quota and the season is closed when its hit. Recreationally its on 7 days a week, 12 months a year from ME to NC with a few closed areas during seasons....
All there is is Finger Pointing and Blaming Others instead of fixing the problem. Sounds like Democrats and Republicans!

[MikeToole]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

Yes for 18-21 days or so in Mass u can keep and sell 30 a day..On the other hand I can fish stripers 12 months a year recreationally if I wanted to, and in NJ we can buy bonus tags and keep an extra fish every day till the quota is filled, 360,000lbs or so.. I can run 2 charters a day in NJ and come back to the dock with boat limits of 8-10 fish, (Even more if everyone has a tag 12-15)a trip, 7 days a week during the season... Now you guys up north dont see pressure, you should see the 100's of NY,NJ boats for miles that will make the MA com rod and reelers look like a tiny speck... Yeah we can go on.
Knock down the rec catch to one fish.. The com catch I could care less what they do, but it aint going away so Ill fish it, after all its gonna get filled with or without me anyway, (Or you can sit home like Sandman and Complain About it), at least there is a quota and the season is closed when its hit. Recreationally its on 7 days a week, 12 months a year from ME to NC with a few closed areas during seasons....
All there is is Finger Pointing and Blaming Others instead of fixing the problem. Sounds like Democrats and Republicans!

I agree that as long as there is a commercial harvest you might just as well take advantage of it. Being from NJ and fishing the Highlands area every year I am well aware of the number of charters and the party boats also targeting stripers. I'm aware of the numbers of fish recs kill compared to commercial. I went to both the Mass and NH hearing on the commercial harvest increase to lobby against them and wrote letters and attended the recent herring hearings. I do not blame anyone other than ASMFC for what is happening. Their job is to manage the fishery in the best interest of the public and I think they are failing to do it. The big money from stripers and the greatest human factor comes from recreational fishing. If the stock numbers can only support a two fish limit for the public that would indicate to me that there are not enough fish to support a commercial fishery. If the public needs to be limited to one fish that is fine with me but is even more proof that there should be no commercial season. I'm not looking to turn the commercial harvest over to the recs like New Jersey did. I'm looking to reduce the catch by that amount. I also believe that stopping commercial fishing will stop most of what has recently happened in NC and Maryland. If you can not sell them it will greatly reduce these activities.

Maybe because NH people experience the stock drops earlier then others we are more sensitive to it. Most all of the people I know practice catch and release. Maybe keep one or two a season usually due to deep hooks. The NH members on the ASMFC striper board are also strong supports of reducing the catch.

I do also write letters and support other aspects of commercial fishing. I can not understand why there is no rec limit on haddock and some of the other ground fish. Why they don't set it at 10 like cod is beyond me. In this case I'm more than happy to give the extra fish to the commercial guys. For most fish, except maybe something like scup, once you go above 5 thats enough.