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08-15-2010, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Union,NJ
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Originally Posted by numbskull
The quota is worth a fixed number of dollars to the state. A guy who comes in and spends 2000 dollars and leaves with 8000 dollars reduces the value of that quota by 8000 dollars and creates a net loss for the state of 6000 dollars initially, but probably closer to 10,000 dollars after multiplier effects are accounted for.
So, again, as a citizen of MA why should my family, my neighbors, and myself lose 10,000 dollars of economic activity so you can come here and sell fish? Talk about a resource grab....this one is a grand-daddy.
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Mass guys sell in Ri, Ct guys sell in ri, mass, Ri guys sell on mass and so on... It goes on with the bigger draggers, comm vessels selling out way more than a grand of fish in different states, ur talking millions. There were some scallops coming in from Va into mass??? Fluke draggers from nc selling out in Nj??? It's all really damn confusing..... Anyway, I gotta finish up the night shift and get ready for Tuesday, wed, thurs!!!!
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08-15-2010, 09:08 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Union,NJ
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Originally Posted by CowHunter
Mass guys sell in Ri, Ct guys sell in ri, mass, Ri guys sell on mass and so on... It goes on with the bigger draggers, comm vessels selling out way more than a grand of fish in different states, ur talking millions. There were some scallops coming in from Va into mass??? Fluke draggers from nc selling out in Nj? Then all the stripers sold in mass go to auction get shipped to Va, even Canada? Why are the stripers being sold to out of staters?? It's all really damn confusing..... Anyway, I gotta finish up the night shift and get ready for Tuesday, wed, thurs!!!!
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08-16-2010, 05:35 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Originally Posted by CowHunter
Mass guys sell in Ri, Ct guys sell in ri, mass, Ri guys sell on mass and so on... It goes on with the bigger draggers, comm vessels selling out way more than a grand of fish in different states, ur talking millions. There were some scallops coming in from Va into mass??? Fluke draggers from nc selling out in Nj??? It's all really damn confusing..... Anyway, I gotta finish up the night shift and get ready for Tuesday, wed, thurs!!!!
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It is not confusing at all, and I'm sure you are smart enough to know that there is an interstate commerce in fish taken from federal waters that has nothing to do with state quotas, as well as an interstate commerce in fish caught legally in state waters but governed by a coast-wide quota.
You are also smart enough to know that you have no valid argument as to why the current system allowing you to profit from the quota allocated to the residents of MA should be allowed to stand. Hence your obvious obfuscations and sudden convenient confusion.
But for now, the system is what it is, you are well within your rights to fish here,.....and from my perspective dead fish are dead fish so I don't really care who kills them. Even though it would be nice to see more of the profit from killing them benefit the citizens of my state, it isn't happening anytime soon, so for now your can feel safe being smug........which obviously you also know.....but please spare us the phony rationalizations as to why it is all good and grand for the rest of us.
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08-16-2010, 11:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: little compton ri 02837
Posts: 339
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Well Put
Well put, a striper is a migratory fish it should be managed by the feds, just like migratory birds like ducks. Another point remember that once migratory birds were legally hunted for proffit by market hunters. Market hunters have gone the way of the passenger pidgeon. Hopefully people will wake up and protect the striped bass from the vast majority of commercials and the recs who both take as many fish as they are legally entiltled to with no thought of the future or the health of the striped bass fishery. Who knows, during the current downward spiral (which is occurring ask any fisheries scientist or a reasonable person) we might be able to finish off striper this time. We came close in the eighties but this time it could be forever! Charlie
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08-16-2010, 11:18 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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I think there is STILL ...........much to be learned
speaking of dead fish..... that includes the small fry encountering
pollution where they hatched out and how farmers need to prevent run off from reaching the breeding grounds.
when you consider how many eggs each Cow lays and how many dinks actually survive the Journey back to the sea....
much could be done to increase those odds in the Striper's favor.
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