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03-03-2010, 09:08 PM
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Neutron care is what we have now for the uninsured. It leaves the patient standing, but destroys all his assets. They'll treat you now, and sic a collection agency on you later.
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03-03-2010, 09:42 PM
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There ya go Joe. And if you have no assets, then what? You're at the mercy of whatever the PRESENT government will afford you. Suppose it's a stingy government? You're schrod in Boston..
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03-04-2010, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Neutron care is what we have now for the uninsured. It leaves the patient standing, but destroys all his assets. They'll treat you now, and sic a collection agency on you later.
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you don't know what you are talking about.... |
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03-04-2010, 08:29 AM
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BuzzLuck
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Found on msnbc.com, says it all....
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 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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03-04-2010, 08:30 AM
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Jim: You asked for opinions and I gave you mine. It's o.k. to discount what I think - a lot of people have - but I believe my points were valid.
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03-04-2010, 08:36 AM
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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03-04-2010, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe
Jim: You asked for opinions and I gave you mine. It's o.k. to discount what I think - a lot of people have - but I believe my points were valid.
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Perhaps I'm misreading you, Joe. On the one hand you seem to admire Obama because he is not the typical opportunist politician, on the other hand you seem to think he is scary because he actually believes in what he is doing. This doesn't clarify, for me, what you actually opine on the the health care bill. In another thread you pointed out that our economy is unsustainable. This health care bill is, to me, piling even more unsustainability on top of what is already unsustainable. The Keynesian economic model has evolved us into this situation, and Obama's policies are, to me, Keynes on steroids. I realize that many think that the free market is broken, that it doesn't work. I think that is a misconception of what a free market does. A free market does not provide "free" services. It provides the opportunity for individuals to provide for themselves, of themselves, by themselves. It guarantees nothing. Failure is inherent in freedom. The free market provides the opportunity to pursue life liberty and happiness. It does not guarantee those things. To say that the free market has failed because health care is not guaranteed to everybody is actually saying that you prefer something other than a free market, not that it has failed. If you prefer the mixed, Keynesian model, is that because it "works?" Again, it has evolved us into the present unsustainability. Is there some magical mixed economy that balances the government intrusion into the hard hearted market so that life, liberty, and happiness are guaranteed? Has that ever occurred? Have we passed that magical point, and are Obama's policies trying to steer us back to it? |
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03-04-2010, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Is there some magical mixed economy that balances the government intrusion into the hard hearted market so that life, liberty, and happiness are guaranteed?
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Yes, it's called America. We have a system that works in 20 and 50 year cycles that move the flow of money up or down to bring stability (i.e. growth) over the long haul.
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03-04-2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Yes, it's called America. We have a system that works in 20 and 50 year cycles that move the flow of money up or down to bring stability (i.e. growth) over the long haul.
-spence
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So then, hope and change are not needed. |
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03-04-2010, 04:02 PM
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So then, hope and change are not needed.
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Most people don't apply macro thinking to their own lives. During the smaller cycles I'd think that hope and change could be beneficial to the individual, even if they are insignificant in the big picture.
-spence |
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03-04-2010, 11:22 AM
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I'd like to go around and around with you but I have to make shirts for Mass Bass or I'm going to on the dole too.
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03-04-2010, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe
I'd like to go around and around with you but I have to make shirts for Mass Bass or I'm going to on the dole too.
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If I show up shirtless and without any money, can I just have a shirt for free? |
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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03-04-2010, 01:17 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by Joe
I'd like to go around and around with you but I have to make shirts for Mass Bass or I'm going to on the dole too.
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Can you make up two with impeach obama on it? Fishbones and I will be going together and Im sure we'll buy them. Dont worry, I dont talk politics in person, Im just an internet tough guy. |
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03-04-2010, 01:22 PM
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and if you had Michelle whispering in your ear................  |
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