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Old 10-01-2009, 04:27 AM   #1
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I don't think that's what he said JD...

which of these is actually true???

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I pay 100% of my health insurance because I own a business. On the other hand, my employees only pay *a portion* of their health insurance because *I* pay the other portion out of *my* (the business's) revenue

All my employees are long-time employees that get health insurance from their spouses, so I haven't really had to look into the details of it.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:54 PM   #2
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I don't think that's what he said JD...

which of these is actually true???

JohnnyD;714628]

Concerning:
I pay 100% of my health insurance because I own a business. On the other hand, my employees only pay *a portion* of their health insurance because *I* pay the other portion out of *my* (the business's) revenue

All my employees are long-time employees that get health insurance from their spouses, so I haven't really had to look into the details of it.

Both
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:10 PM   #3
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I don't think that's what he said JD...

which of these is actually true???

JohnnyD;714628]

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I pay 100% of my health insurance because I own a business. On the other hand, my employees only pay *a portion* of their health insurance because *I* pay the other portion out of *my* (the business's) revenue

All my employees are long-time employees that get health insurance from their spouses, so I haven't really had to look into the details of it.
The second is what is currently true. But we have been in business for 11 years. Most of which was before the MA law. Doesn't change how the expense is treated. Nice try though.

I'll try and find a reference to what I mentioned above regarding negotiating pay.
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:48 PM   #4
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Scenario
company has 30-40 employees on assembly line making 20 bucks an hour, paid vacation, sick days, health plan and union. One employees wife has better health plan. In this scenario the assembly worker most likely will not be able to negotiate a higher wage.

machinist, carpenter, plumber in a non union shop of X number of employees, hourly or piece work, excellent at his job, paid vaction, sick days, health plan. Wife has better health plan. This person may be able to negotiate a higher wage if he goes on wives health plan. Depends on the value of worker.

Salesman is a top producer, may negotiate with employer for higher % split if wife has better health care.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:54 PM   #5
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Scenario
company has 30-40 employees on assembly line making 20 bucks an hour, paid vacation, sick days, health plan and union. One employees wife has better health plan. In this scenario the assembly worker most likely will not be able to negotiate a higher wage.

machinist, carpenter, plumber in a non union shop of X number of employees, hourly or piece work, excellent at his job, paid vaction, sick days, health plan. Wife has better health plan. This person may be able to negotiate a higher wage if he goes on wives health plan. Depends on the value of worker.

Salesman is a top producer, may negotiate with employer for higher % split if wife has better health care.
A lot of this will depend on if an employee is exempt vs non-exempt...but you really can't compare a top sales person with a factory worker, it's a completely different world.

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Just an update.
They will cut $500 Billion from Medicare to help pay for Obamacare and the Feds say
Medicare premiums will go up another 15% next year.

Social security going broke, Medicare on the way.
Don't get old guys.

I know, I know, a lot of young guys on here, but trust me, now your running, soon you'll be walking.

" Choose Life "
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Work hard, save, accumulate assets, play by the rules - you'll end up in nursing home next to an ex-con who never paid into anything, getting your ass roughly wiped by somebody who does not like your skin color.
The only difference is the government will make sure that the person who worked is good and broke before they let them in.

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Work hard, save, accumulate assets, play by the rules - you'll end up in nursing home next to an ex-con who never paid into anything, getting your ass roughly wiped by somebody who does not like your skin color.
The only difference is the government will make sure that the person who worked is good and broke before they let them in.
Sad but true, Joe.

Seeing all these years paying into Soc Sec and nothing will be left , yet there are people who think Obamacare will work.

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The second is what is currently true can't be based on the first .But we have been in business for 11 years. Most of which was before the MA lawwhich one?. Doesn't change how the expense is treated. Nice try though.

I'll try and find a reference to what I mentioned above regarding negotiating pay.
why did your credability hole any deeper?
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