For those keeping score

[buckman]

whats the "change"?
trillions and trillions of dollars of added dept and counting.

[Raven]

he's already Campaigning to win the next election

[spence]

I believe their intent is to add additional privacy measures missing from the first bill.

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

I believe their intent is to add additional privacy measures missing from the first bill.

-spence

That sounds like your opinion, Spence. Not a very strong defense of your guy.

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

That sounds like your opinion, Spence. Not a very strong defense of your guy.

No, the Whitehouse said they were open to it when they agreed to keep the provisions set to expire, and Congress has talked about introducing additional legistlation to help ensure privacy.

It's not like it happens overnight.

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

No, the Whitehouse said they were open to it when they agreed to keep the provisions set to expire, and Congress has talked about introducing additional legistlation to help ensure privacy.

It's not like it happens overnight.

-spence

Yeah, just what I thought. Very vague and wishy washy. They ar "open to it" and Congress has "talked about additional legislation". Doesn't sound very convincing to me.

But you go ahead and "don't stop believing" just like your favorite 80's band used to sing.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, the Whitehouse said they were open to it when they agreed to keep the provisions set to expire, and Congress has talked about introducing additional legistlation to help ensure privacy.

It's not like it happens overnight.

-spence

Ya, it's not like a trillion dollar spending bill. This takes thought

[Joe]

Well, yesterday, they killed some key terrorists in a helicopter strike in Somalia. Suspect Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, a leader of Al Qaeda-linked terror organization al-Shabab, was killed in the strike, highlighting the administration's commitment to pursue terrorists wherever they may be. We've been after him for years, now he's dead.

African politicians have repeatedly called for a law-enforcement approach to stopping suspected terrorists on the continent but Obama ordered the attack anyway. I guess his Kenyan roots are not influencing African policy as it relates to terrorism.

Now is where you tell me that I don't listen or understand.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Joe

Well, yesterday, they killed some key terrorists in a helicopter strike in Somalia. Suspect Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, a leader of Al Qaeda-linked terror organization al-Shabab, was killed in the strike, highlighting the administration's commitment to pursue terrorists wherever they may be. We've been after him for years, now he's dead.

African politicians have repeatedly called for a law-enforcement approach to stopping suspected terrorists on the continent but Obama ordered the attack anyway. I guess his Kenyan roots are not influencing African policy as it relates to terrorism.

Now is where you tell me that I don't listen or understand.

Thats great news Joe, but isnt that what Bush/Cheney were doing? Im really looking for what Obama has done. He was marketed as this big agent of change, but there is nothing really new that he has accomplished.

[Joe]

It's not too hard to find a list of executive orders and signed legislation. Specifically, I think lifting the ban on stem cell research and restoring science to it's rightful place is very significant.

There's one less notorious terrorist bent on our destruction than there was yesterday - it's an accomplishment anyway you slice it. The president has proven that he's not weak on terrorism - far from it. Moreover, success or failure in ongoing operations is not negated by virtue of being the second commander to oversee operations. If that was the case, George McClellan would be on the fifty-dollar bill instead of Grant.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Raven

he's already Campaigning to win the next election

Yes.
He's taking page from the "Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance" playbook.

Pursue Al Qaeda in Afghanistan or Pakistan and find bin-Laden. Then, knock him out with a bunch of Sam Adams beers (Muslims are notorious lightweights) and surreptitiously stick a microchip in his beard so you know where he is at all times. Then, kill his as_s a week before the next election and show the pictures to an adoring public right before American Idol comes on.