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11-09-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
Gentleman, let's get back on topic here. How would you propose, if it were you in thedrivers seat, we settle the mess in Iraq. What in your opinion is the clearest track to the resolution of this conflict? 
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Intense focus on training and strengthening of Iraqs internal security forces. They and they alone can quell the internal violence inside their country.
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11-09-2006, 01:30 PM
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Intense focus on training and strengthening of Iraqs internal security forces. They and they alone can quell the internal violence inside their country.
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The problem isn't just training...there's a small issue with "motivation"
-spence
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11-09-2006, 01:32 PM
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The problem isn't just training...there's a small issue with "motivation"
-spence
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Motivation is definetely a component of the Training process. Any Marine will tell you.
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11-09-2006, 01:35 PM
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Motivation is definetely a component of the Training process. Any Marine will tell you.
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And without motivation the training is moot.
-spence
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11-09-2006, 01:42 PM
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Unfrortunately, there is no easy way out. We can't hand the Iraqi people a hot steaming plate of camel dung, that we dished up, and say "bon appetit" and "au revoir".
That's what Powell meant when he told the rest of the Administration, "you break it, you own it" before the war.
Maybe now everyone understands why Bush 41 never wanted to take Bahgdad or overthrow Saddam back in 1991  W should have listened more closely to Daddy's advice and not Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-09-2006, 01:45 PM
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And without motivation the training is moot.
-spence
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Many a unmotivated youth has entered basic Training. Those that complete it are motivated.
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11-09-2006, 01:50 PM
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Many a unmotivated youth has entered basic Training. Those that complete it are motivated.
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Perhaps we should have sent them to Parris Island then, but I remember something about it being done on site.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
Look at the Kurds, no problem with motivation...because they have ownership.
-spence
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11-09-2006, 02:14 PM
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Perhaps we should have sent them to Parris Island then, but I remember something about it being done on site.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
Look at the Kurds, no problem with motivation...because they have ownership.
-spence
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We are talking about Military Training. Not Apples not Oranges. Military Training whether in Parris Island or Bagdhad instills motivation. Unmotivated individuals fail. Are you trying to tell us we are wasting our time Training Security Forces in Iraq? Or are you just being contrary to common sense?
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