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[Got Stripers]

Some of THE hardest workers I’ve seen in the last decade are immigrants and I’m sure a large percentage of them are very concerned tonight. I’m sure (haha) there are an equal million of hard working white young US born people just ready to get right in there and pick your produce, roof your home, landscape your property, deliver your packages and take care of you on your night out or vacation.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Some of THE hardest workers I’ve seen in the last decade are immigrants and I’m sure a large percentage of them are very concerned tonight. I’m sure (haha) there are an equal million of hard working white young US born people just ready to get right in there and pick your produce, roof your home, landscape your property, deliver your packages and take care of you on your night out or vacation.

And the proper process has always been to increase legal immigration but here we are 35 years later with that being ignored.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by JohnR

And the proper process has always been to increase legal immigration but here we are 35 years later with that being ignored.

That problem has been around for a long time, Trump didn’t fix it the first time around, killed a bill attempting serious reform and this time around will be an absolute sh*t show, with implications he frankly couldn’t care about.

[Rmarsh]

Some people have a problem with deporting illegal immigrant criminals. I do not. We have some people that have threatened or alluded to leaving the country if Trump was to get elected. I hope they will but i'm afraid they are just full of #^&#^&#^&#^&

The deportations begin soon and i support that 100%.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Some people have a problem with deporting illegal immigrant criminals. I do not. We have some people that have threatened or alluded to leaving the country if Trump was to get elected. I hope they will but i'm afraid they are just full of #^&#^&#^&#^&

The deportations begin soon and i support that 100%.

And who deported more illegal criminals than Trump? Obama did of course. We’ve always prioritized deporting criminals, this is nothing new.

As John alluded to the issue is we need immigration reform that also takes into account the large contribution immigrant workers contribute to our economy.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by spence

And who deported more illegal criminals than Trump? Obama did of course. We’ve always prioritized deporting criminals, this is nothing new.

As John alluded to the issue is we need immigration reform that also takes into account the large contribution immigrant workers contribute to our economy.

I dont care who deports them. Trumps plan will far surpass anything Obama did. No amount of illegal is good for our country. The illegals I know have no insurance, pay no taxes, broke the law coming here, created a housing shortage, drain our resources, and the work they do is shiddy at best. That outweighs what you call their contributions. Biden was in cognitive decline from day one in office and Kamala is not leadership material to say the least. Keep that avatar though ...she may run again in 2029...I hope. This is day 1....Trump has declared a national emergency...https://x.com/i/status/1881423409898508484

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

And who deported more illegal criminals than Trump? Obama did of course. We’ve always prioritized deporting criminals, this is nothing new.

As John alluded to the issue is we need immigration reform that also takes into account the large contribution immigrant workers contribute to our economy.

No - we had that - it was the Reagan era Amnesty.


We need a guest worker system - big difference with increase in the front door

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No - we had that - it was the Reagan era Amnesty.


We need a guest worker system - big difference with increase in the front door

I never said anything about amnesty, I was talking specifically about a guest worker program that recognizes ten percent (I’ve read) of our economy is driven by illegal immigrants. Codify it into law so immigrant workers don’t feel the need to fly under the radar. Problem now for instance is they’ll require people to register and check in then detain them when they do in good faith.

Do this to get currently illegal workers on the books then increase penalties for employers who don’t comply. Instead of insulting and mocking our neighbors work with them to address root causes as we can never militarize our border enough nor should we need to.

What looks to be the current plan sounds to me a lot like Iraq after 911, disrupt the status quo and democracy will flourish but in this case it’s a belief Americans will fill in those jobs. Both were/are fools errands. All Trump is going to do is cause suffering and potentially mutate who we are which is a nation of immigrants.

Two years ago my neighbor had three building reroofed by a Guatemalan crew, no idea if they were all here legally but they were fast, clean, professional and did top quality work. I also work with a number of people on H1b visas. It’s not just that US companies are better off with top talent, in a global economy tech companies are more effective when they can integrate rather than work country to country.

The can has been kicked down the road so many times it’s not an easy problem to solve, but a go it alone approach rooted in xenophobia and a LOT of misinformation simply isn’t going to make our country stronger.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Some people have a problem with deporting illegal immigrant criminals. I do not. We have some people that have threatened or alluded to leaving the country if Trump was to get elected. I hope they will but i'm afraid they are just full of #^&#^&#^&#^&

The deportations begin soon and i support that 100%.

But it’s ok to release convicted criminals from jail? What happened to the law and order party, people that beat, injured, attempted to kill police and even the VP don’t deserve pardons.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

But it’s ok to release convicted criminals from jail? What happened to the law and order party, people that beat, injured, attempted to kill police and even the VP don’t deserve pardons.

Did i say that is ok? Are you lying? The adults are back in charge get over yourself

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

The adults are back in charge get over yourself

Well, calling Dump a child would be an insult to all children, so there is that. But he and his SS buddies are not adults in the slightest.