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Old 07-29-2022, 11:23 AM   #1
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So for those who need reminding:
In the last few WEEKS, the GQP has said f you to:
- Women
- Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
- Veterans
- Mother Earth
- School children (some of whom will soon enough be the product of forced births)

Simultaneously, it has hugged:
- Guns
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if you’re an unborn child, forced birth is better than abortion. a whole lot better.
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Old 07-29-2022, 11:43 AM   #2
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if you’re an unborn child, forced birth is better than abortion. a whole lot better.
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A national abortion ban would result in a 24% increase in deaths for all women and a 39% increase in deaths for non-Hispanic Black women. There is nothing pro-life about Republicans’ forced-birth movement.

Pregnancy is 14 times more likely to result in a woman’s death than an abortion; and the states outlawing abortion right now already have the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality due to high levels of poverty, limited access to healthcare, and refusal to expand Medicaid.

Forced-birth laws will not save any lives. They will just kill more women and create ripple effects of trauma and devastation throughout society. None of this is about life. The same people pushing forced birth laws also want to outlaw contraception and sex education.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion. SCOTUS’ overturning of Roe was flagrantly unconstitutional and this court of religious ideologues has absolutely zero legitimacy.

Women will not tolerate this; nor should they. The issue isn’t when life or conception begins. It’s who should make decisions about women’s bodies: women themselves or governments. And there is no debate. Women should make these decisions for themselves. Not the government.
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:12 PM   #3
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A national abortion ban would result in a 24% increase in deaths for all women and a 39% increase in deaths for non-Hispanic Black women. There is nothing pro-life about Republicans’ forced-birth movement.

Pregnancy is 14 times more likely to result in a woman’s death than an abortion; and the states outlawing abortion right now already have the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality due to high levels of poverty, limited access to healthcare, and refusal to expand Medicaid.

Forced-birth laws will not save any lives. They will just kill more women and create ripple effects of trauma and devastation throughout society. None of this is about life. The same people pushing forced birth laws also want to outlaw contraception and sex education.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion. SCOTUS’ overturning of Roe was flagrantly unconstitutional and this court of religious ideologues has absolutely zero legitimacy.

Women will not tolerate this; nor should they. The issue isn’t when life or conception begins. It’s who should make decisions about women’s bodies: women themselves or governments. And there is no debate. Women should make these decisions for themselves. Not the government.
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you dodged my question naturally. when you were an unborn child, would
you prefer forced birth or abortion.

If there were a nationwide abortion ban, how many babies’ lives would be saved?
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Old 07-30-2022, 11:54 AM   #4
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you dodged my question naturally. when you were an unborn child, would
you prefer forced birth or abortion.

If there were a nationwide abortion ban, how many babies’ lives would be saved?
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Silly troll
I don’t believe life starts at conception, so zero
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Old 07-29-2022, 07:15 PM   #5
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Forced-birth laws will not save any lives.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion.
The issue isn’t when life or conception begins.
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( 1 it will save a million lives a year.

(2) believing abortion is a state issue, is not part of any religion that i know of.

(3) the question of when life begins, is literally all that matters, because everyone, including you, are ok with laws that prevent women from using their bodies in a way that hurts someone else! you and i both agree on that. so the only question, is when the baby constitutes someone else.
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