No gun problem in the US

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If I concede that cities are powerless (which I don't), the state of CT has also implemented nothing but pure liberalism for 50 years. And again, New Haven, Bridgeport, and Hartford are dangerous and disgusting. So whose fault is that, the state government of Texas?

You want to know how powerful a city can be at reducing crime? Look at what happened in NYC before, during, and after Rudy's tenure, tells you everything you need to know.

Facts are facts, even the ones you don't happen to like.

Here's what liberals really struggle with. You want to improve things like crime? Look at what other places have done, and look at the results. Put politics aside, and repeat what has been shown to work, and avoid repeating what has been shown to fail.

I showed you previously that the crime rate in NYC started going down before rudy started harassing Blacks for no reason other than being Black, continued after they stopped harassing Blacks for no other reason that being Black and went down all across the country where they weren't harassing Blacks for no other reason than being Black.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I showed you previously that the crime rate in NYC started going down before rudy started harassing Blacks for no reason other than being Black, continued after they stopped harassing Blacks for no other reason that being Black and went down all across the country where they weren't harassing Blacks for no other reason than being Black.

You told me a lot of things Paul, not all of them are valid.

I never said crime rates before Rudy were the highest they'd ever been. I said they got a lot lower under his leadership. That's what I said, and it's true.

So according to you guys, everything good that happens under a Republicans watch, the credit goes to the last democrat to hold that office. And everything bad that happens under a Republican's watch, is 100% the fault of that Republican. Do I have that right?

Sounds fair!

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You want to know how powerful a city can be at reducing crime? Look at what happened in NYC before, during, and after Rudy's tenure, tells you everything you need to know.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You told me a lot of things Paul, not all of them are valid.

I never said crime rates before Rudy were the highest they'd ever been. I said they got a lot lower under his leadership. That's what I said, and it's true.

So according to you guys, everything good that happens under a Republicans watch, the credit goes to the last democrat to hold that office. And everything bad that happens under a Republican's watch, is 100% the fault of that Republican. Do I have that right?

Sounds fair!

But your claim about rudy doesn't show anything about what a city can do bc many other cities (and states) had very similiar reductions in crime.

Under his watch they did develop compstat which was shown to reduce crime.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But your claim about rudy doesn't show anything about what a city can do bc many other cities (and states) had very similiar reductions in crime.

Under his watch they did develop compstat which was shown to reduce crime.

Rudy got unbelievably proactive and aggressive with handling crime. After he did that, crime rates plummeted. After your side came in and decided that criminals need hugs and free needles instead of prison, crime rates soared.

That doesn't prove causation. Especially when one is horrified at the thought of there being causation, because he was a republican.

Crime is high on voter's minds. Let's see who Americans think is better suited to handle it in a few months,

Your sides answer to crime is to "defund the police". If your goal was to appeal to the violent criminal vote, it worked. Everyone else, almost died laughing.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Rudy got unbelievably proactive and aggressive with handling crime. After he did that, crime rates plummeted. After your side came in and decided that criminals need hugs and free needles instead of prison, crime rates soared.

That doesn't prove causation. Especially when one is horrified at the thought of there being causation, because he was a republican.

Crime is high on voter's minds. Let's see who Americans think is better suited to handle it in a few months,

Your sides answer to crime is to "defund the police". If your goal was to appeal to the violent criminal vote, it worked. Everyone else, almost died laughing.

Police funding has increased every year with no exception
Police results decreased every year
The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting different results…..
Idiocy is when it keeps getting worse and you throw more money at them because……..
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting different results…..

Idiocy is when it keeps getting worse and you throw more posts at them because……..


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hello......

[Pete F.]

Scott, as usual you missed the important part, that despite the lies above what defund the police means, police funding has increased

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Police funding has increased every year with no exception
Police results decreased every year
The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting different results…..
Idiocy is when it keeps getting worse and you throw more money at them because……..
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Scott, as usual you missed the important part, that despite the lies above what defund the police means, police funding has increased


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it hasn’t increased everywhere.

and your side is demonizing them as well, calling them ( as you call everyone) a bunch of racists. these are people who for the most part, are heroes who risk their lives for not a ton of money.

But if calling them racist assassins helps fire up the base, by jiminy that’s good enough reason to do it.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Scott, as usual you missed the important part


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actually...I did't