Paul: re crack pipes

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If your brother was addicted to narcotics, do you think he would be better off with aids and hepatitis?
We’re not talking about buying them their drug of choice, just giving them a chance to make it through without a compounding issue.
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non he’s not better off with aids or hepatitis.

but the best solution is to get him off drugs, and tough live is still love.

Here’s my question. how is coding drug addicts working in san francisco and portland? are you denying that enabling drug addicts can lead to more drug addicts?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

non he’s not better off with aids or hepatitis.

but the best solution is to get him off drugs, and tough live is still love.

Here’s my question. how is coding drug addicts working in san francisco and portland? are you denying that enabling drug addicts can lead to more drug addicts?
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Doesn’t sound like tough love is a miraculous cure to me, it’s a long tough uncertain road no matter how you look at it.

Treating addiction is proven to reduce the number of addicts.
Are you seriously claiming that providing needles to addicts encourages people to become addicts?
Really?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Doesn’t sound like tough love is a miraculous cure to me, it’s a long tough uncertain road no matter how you look at it.

Treating addiction is proven to reduce the number of addicts.
Are you seriously claiming that providing needles to addicts encourages people to become addicts?
Really?
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i never said tough love is a miraculous cure. there is no silver bullet.

i asked you 3 or 4 times if coding them is the answer, why is San Francisco turning into a pile
of raw sewage?

you won’t answer, because you know you can’t answer without showing that i have a point.

. what does it say about the utter flimsiness of your beliefs, that you are scared sh*tless by such a simple and obvious question? you can’t even come close to answering. what does that tell you?

we don’t have to speculate. coddling druggies has been tried. the results are in. you want your neighborhood to look like San Francisco and Portland?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i never said tough love is a miraculous cure. there is no silver bullet.

i asked you 3 or 4 times if coding them is the answer, why is San Francisco turning into a pile
of raw sewage?

you won’t answer, because you know you can’t answer without showing that i have a point.

. what does it say about the utter flimsiness of your beliefs, that you are scared sh*tless by such a simple and obvious question? you can’t even come close to answering. what does that tell you?

we don’t have to speculate. coddling druggies has been tried. the results are in. you want your neighborhood to look like San Francisco and Portland?
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You think that San Francisco or Portland isn’t a larger example of any city in the USA
Just what would you like to do to addicts, the mentally I’ll and other homeless people.
Explain your magic cure, I’m sure most Americans would love to see how your magnificent brilliance proposes to solve this, we’ve all been waiting for the simple solution.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You think that San Francisco or Portland isn’t a larger example of any city in the USA
Just what would you like to do to addicts, the mentally I’ll and other homeless people.
Explain your magic cure, I’m sure most Americans would love to see how your magnificent brilliance proposes to solve this, we’ve all been waiting for the simple solution.
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What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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https://apnews.com/article/health-sa...ce76764f71058d
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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Jim your cure for addiction follows the conservatives and religious mantra of the demise of the American Family , who think a return to the days of leave it beaver separate beds home bound women and the man working 9-5 and church on Sunday and morals is the answer

I am sure it wouldn’t hurt but that ships sailed in the 1960s


I suggest anyone should watch wine and roses 1962 it was relative then and is today

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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The “war on drugs” started on June 18, 1971
And a trillion dollars later, it failed miserably.
But you want to carry on.
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