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01-23-2022, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
pete complains about the influence of billionaire wealth, but recently, he bragged that a huge majority of uber wealthy are democrats.
which is it, pete? is it a good thing that the uber wealthy lean left, or bad?
talk about wanting to have it both ways.
as to the rich getting richer…what do you expect with a massive stock run up than spans 12 years? how would you prevent the wealthy from benefiting from that? would you pass a law, that says “once your net worth exceeds this threshold, you must keep all your money in an account that pays 0% interest”?
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The increase in violent crime is largely in the items above and no it doesn’t have a simple answer
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01-23-2022, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The increase in violent crime is largely in the items above and no it doesn’t have a simple answer
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nowhere near answering the question i asked.
pete, is it a good thing or a bad thing, that ( as you correctly pointed out), the uber wealthy are mostly democrats?
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01-23-2022, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
nowhere near answering the question i asked.
pete, is it a good thing or a bad thing, that ( as you correctly pointed out), the uber wealthy are mostly democrats?
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cutting and pasting himself now....this is funny
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01-23-2022, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
nowhere near answering the question i asked.
pete, is it a good thing or a bad thing, that ( as you correctly pointed out), the uber wealthy are mostly democrats?
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As I posted
There’s a lot of things driving the increase in crime and no it’s not just one.
As usual you push it to your normal narrative
Progressive bad
Regressive good
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01-23-2022, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
As I posted
There’s a lot of things driving the increase in crime and no it’s not just one.
As usual you push it to your normal narrative
Progressive bad
Regressive good
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not asking about crime. i’m asking if it’s a good thing or a bad thing, that the uber wealthy are heavily democrat?
why are you so determined to avoid answering?
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01-23-2022, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
not asking about crime. i’m asking if it’s a good thing or a bad thing, that the uber wealthy are heavily democrat?
why are you so determined to avoid answering?
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First because that’s not what I said
I stated and the statistics back it up, that areas that voted democratic are better educated and produce most of the gdp.
I know that bothers your view of Donald Trump as the Almighty and Ron DeSantis as the prosperity-gospel pastor of Floriduh
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01-23-2022, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
First because that’s not what I said
I stated and the statistics back it up, that areas that voted democratic are better educated and produce most of the gdp.
I know that bothers your view of Donald Trump as the Almighty and Ron DeSantis as the prosperity-gospel pastor of Floriduh
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Jim: Trump is a morally bankrupt reptile.
Pete: Jim thinks Trump is the Almighty.
you can’t respond to what anyone actually says, Pete. Do you pretend we’re saying something we never came close to saying.
It’s boring and cowardly. And a constant liberal tactic.
The uber wealthy in this country, today, heavily vote democrat. I’m fine with that. You’re fine with it when it suits you, you deny it when it doesn’t suit yiu.
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01-23-2022, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Jim: Trump is a morally bankrupt reptile.
Pete: Jim thinks Trump is the Almighty.
you can’t respond to what anyone actually says, Pete. Do you pretend we’re saying something we never came close to saying.
It’s boring and cowardly. And a constant liberal tactic.
The uber wealthy in this country, today, heavily vote democrat. I’m fine with that. You’re fine with it when it suits you, you deny it when it doesn’t suit yiu.
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You have repeatedly said that Trump was the only one that could do a number of things and complained that I refuse to shower him with praise and that he’s really not so bad, you’d work for him.
Nothing better than an authoritarian leader for you, and morals don’t matter.
Hypocrite much?
Just who are these “Uber” wealthy?
I’ve taken an Uber, does that make me one?
If you’re talking about the Billionaire class, you’re just plain lying.
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01-23-2022, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
First because that’s not what I said
I stated and the statistics back it up, that areas that voted democratic are better educated and produce most of the gdp.
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Are the blacks in the inner cities of "areas" that vote Democrat better educated and produce most of the gdp?
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01-23-2022, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
First because that’s not what I said
I stated and the statistics back it up, that areas that voted democratic are better educated and produce most of the gdp.
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Political affiliation of those R states matches up pretty good with the less educated and lower earnings/lesser GDP per capita.
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01-23-2022, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
As I posted
As usual you push it to your normal narrative
Progressive bad
Regressive good
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I’ve said here a thousand times, that i think liberals are 100% correct on some big issues.
Again, why don’t you show us all that i’m the thoughtless zealot, and you are the one capable of critical
thinking, that you’re the one who can think for himself…
Tell us the big issues on which you think liberals are wrong, and conservatives are right. Go ahead.
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01-23-2022, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I’ve said here a thousand times, that i think liberals are 100% correct on some big issues.
Again, why don’t you show us all that i’m the thoughtless zealot, and you are the one capable of critical
thinking, that you’re the one who can think for himself…
Tell us the big issues on which you think liberals are wrong, and conservatives are right. Go ahead.
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Right after you get your badge
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01-24-2022, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
nowhere near answering the question i asked.
pete, is it a good thing or a bad thing, that ( as you correctly pointed out), the uber wealthy are mostly democrats?
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Again Jim do you do any research
Or is it all feelings with you
The politics of other billion-dollar families aren’t as well known. Of the 50 richest families, 28 mainly donate to Republicans and only seven contribute mainly to Democrats. Not all families stay on the same side of the political spectrum — 15 support candidates from both parties
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasa...-or-democrats/
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01-24-2022, 10:38 AM
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Again Jim do you do any research
Or is it all feelings with you
The politics of other billion-dollar families aren’t as well known. Of the 50 richest families, 28 mainly donate to Republicans and only seven contribute mainly to Democrats. Not all families stay on the same side of the political spectrum — 15 support candidates from both parties
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasa...-or-democrats/
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Pete, not I, said the wealthy are donating to democrats.
But 50 families is nothing.
Pete was right.
https://www.standingforfreedom.com/2...y-of-the-rich/
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01-24-2022, 10:40 AM
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And here I thought we were talking about the UBER rich ..
I Guess the WSJ has swung liberal 
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01-24-2022, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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Silly regressive, I said the population that voted democratic in the last election is better educated and contributed more to the GDP.
70% of the wealth in the US is owned by the top 1%
Sound sustainable to you?
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01-24-2022, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Silly regressive, I said the population that voted democratic in the last election is better educated and contributed more to the GDP.
70% of the wealth in the US is owned by the top 1%
Sound sustainable to you?
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you said that people
who run the economy, or drive gdp, or whatever, vote democrat.
the left is wealthier than. the right. i’m sorry if you don’t like that.
the wealthy getting wealthier isn’t “unsustainable”, except to morons like you who believe wealth is finite, who believes that they get wealthier by taking from us.
it’s not true. they create wealth. that’s why gdp increases.
liberals like to say wealth is finite. it’s stupid and a lie.
it does no one any harm if the wealthy get wealthier. in fact, it helps everyone else, because they pay some taxes, they spend some, they invest some, they give some
to charity. all of which lessens the burden on you,
make that wrong.
what “stress” does it put on anyone else, if oprah winfrey makes another million today? why does that make us less sustainable?
what planet do you live on?
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01-24-2022, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you said that people
who run the economy, or drive gdp, or whatever, vote democrat.
the left is wealthier than. the right. i’m sorry if you don’t like that.
the wealthy getting wealthier isn’t “unsustainable”, except to morons like you who believe wealth is finite, who believes that they get wealthier by taking from us.
it’s not true. they create wealth. that’s why gdp increases.
liberals like to say wealth is finite. it’s stupid and a lie.
it does no one any harm if the wealthy get wealthier. in fact, it helps everyone else, because they pay some taxes, they spend some, they invest some, they give some
to charity. all of which lessens the burden on you,
make that wrong.
what “stress” does it put on anyone else, if oprah winfrey makes another million today? why does that make us less sustainable?
what planet do you live on?
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The one that looks at history.
If you think that capitalism works best with fewer and fewer people controlling more and more assets you have never understood Adam Smith, Karl Marx, Totalitarianism or basic history. Capitalism is a force for innovation and ingenuity. Not a force for owning competition.
Every innovation in human society that led to economic growth has led to a class that wants to stop having the rules of the game apply to it so as to preserve their wealth, when in fact, there is more wealth for them in the system being healthy and not skewed in their favor.
The point is that unregulated capitalism is inherently bad for society as a whole and yet capitalism when tempered with social justice and govt regulation is a powerful engine that has done more for the human condition than any form of economic system.
The innovation that company’s like microsoft, google and facebook have stymied by buying their competitors can’t be calculated.
Just keep believing what you’re fed.
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01-24-2022, 02:40 PM
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these words say a lot about the people that use them to describe themselves and their friends, probably think of themselves as "elites" as well 
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01-24-2022, 02:43 PM
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these words say a lot about the people that use them to describe themselves and their friends, probably think of themselves as "elites" as well 
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that that kid “terrorized”. by being asked a question in the video you posted, he’s highly educated.
no shortage of morons in the lvy league.
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01-23-2022, 10:15 AM
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The increase in violent crime is largely in the items above and no it doesn’t have a simple answer
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No, It is bc Guiliani is no longer mayor of NYC>
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