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Old 12-11-2020, 12:09 PM   #1
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But the bitter clingers won’t admit it
Well, then, you can assure the bitter clingers that they needn't be concerned with the "Biden China angle."
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Old 12-11-2020, 12:44 PM   #2
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Well, then, you can assure the bitter clingers that they needn't be concerned with the "Biden China angle."
Apparently you haven't been paying attention for the last 4 years

As national security officials and some trade advisers in the Trump administration tried crafting get-tough-on-China policies to address what they viewed as America’s greatest foreign policy challenge, they ran into opposition from an unexpected quarter.

President Trump himself was undermining their work.

That has been the underlying tension of the last three and a half years, laid out in blunt language in the new memoir by John R. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser. The book supports what administration officials have said in interviews and private discussions since 2017, and what, in many ways, had been out in the open in Mr. Trump’s fawning statements about China’s authoritarian leader, Xi Jinping, many made on Twitter.

Taken together, the accounts reveal that there has been no coherent China policy, despite efforts early in the administration by senior aides to frame foreign policy around what they labeled “great power competition,” outlined in their own national security strategy document.

Administration players on China have been divided by factional feuding and irreconcilable policy goals, with security hawks and religious freedom crusaders butting heads with Wall Street advocates and free traders.

Overseeing it all has been a president whose main aim with China has been to secure a trade deal — using overt pleas to Chinese leaders — that would help him get re-elected, according to the accounts.

Mr. Trump, who has shown little interest in human rights and has an affinity for dictators, had no qualms about negotiating openly on those terms with Mr. Xi and ignoring other issues. He even told Mr. Xi repeatedly to continue building internment camps that Chinese officials have used to detain more than one million Muslims — “which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do,” Mr. Bolton wrote.

Although Mr. Trump is known to be a transactional president, Mr. Bolton’s unsparing account reveals transgressions that not only break norms, but also could increase the risks to U.S. national security: Mr. Trump intervening to end sanctions against a Chinese technology company as a favor to Mr. Xi; offering to end a Justice Department case against a Huawei executive in exchange for trade concessions; and “pleading with Xi to ensure” China would make American farm product purchases to help Mr. Trump win re-election, as Mr. Bolton put it.

“Make sure I win,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Xi, according to unredacted pages seen by Vanity Fair.

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Old 12-11-2020, 12:52 PM   #3
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it comes down to this , seeing that the Administration in on the way out !
as if by magic all these stories about china this and china that hit the conservative mouth pieces?
2015, U.S. intelligence officials, who had been monitoring Fang’s activities, became concerned about her ties to Swalwell and provided a “defensive briefing” to the California Democrat, Axios reported.Swalwell immediately cut off contact with Fang, and he is not suspected of any improper actions in his dealings with her.

5 years later this is a story 5 mins before Biden gets sworn in ya ok

this has nothing to do with America 1st its just a replay of setting the ground work to what republicans do best obstruct lie and lie some more
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Old 12-11-2020, 02:32 PM   #4
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it comes down to this , seeing that the Administration in on the way out !
as if by magic all these stories about china this and china that hit the conservative mouth pieces?
2015, U.S. intelligence officials, who had been monitoring Fang’s activities, became concerned about her ties to Swalwell and provided a “defensive briefing” to the California Democrat, Axios reported.Swalwell immediately cut off contact with Fang, and he is not suspected of any improper actions in his dealings with her.

5 years later this is a story 5 mins before Biden gets sworn in ya ok

this has nothing to do with America 1st its just a replay of setting the ground work to what republicans do best obstruct lie and lie some more
Again, Greenwald is not a Republican. He is not a conservative. Neither is Professor Di. Neither is Axios re Swalwell. You keep dodging what Greenwald said. And the China/Biden connection is not some new last minute revelation. It has been commented on and even documented by "conservative mouth pieces" well before this (see Peter Schweitzer).

Swalwell is an example of China's large infiltration into the levers of power and secret information in this country. China has gleaned a great deal of info, tech, military, financial, through its thousands of implanted agents in the U.S. There is no telling what Swalwell may have told Fang before she was outed.

Trump has been skewered, accused, investigated by the FBI, a special counsel, the Congress, for alleged security threats because of ties to Russia. Will Biden be investigated? Do you care?
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Old 12-11-2020, 02:05 PM   #5
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Apparently you haven't been paying attention for the last 4 years . . .
In spite of the cherry picked out of context quotes and slanted opinions (which probably have some grain of truth but distort the overall picture), nothing you posted shows us how Mr. Bolton or any past administrations did anything to halt the rise of China's power or influence--instead it steadily and continuously grew to the point where we now face a worse threat than ever to the American experiment not only from Chinese leftism, but leftism from within.

As crappy as you try to portray Trump's efforts re China (and they included more than the mere trying to get a trade deal as Bolton claims), he has thrown more of a monkey wrench into the CCP's objective than anyone, including Bolton, has done before. If anything, from Nixon through Obama, we have enabled China far more than deterring it.

And China is elated that Biden won, not Trump. That should mean something. The Greenwald article explains why. But let us not discuss that. And let us not discuss Biden's China connection. That's all been "debunked." Yeah . . . right.
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