Trump* pulls Brady from Super Bowl

[Pete F.]

Here's the transcript and the last paragraph is Trump*s contribution to the portfolio of misinformation, quackery and jaw-dropping ignorance he has shared with the American people during the coronavirus pandemic.

Bill Bryan: (24:22)
We work closely with the CDC, FDA, HHS, and also our Department of Defense colleagues and many others. Yesterday, I shared the emerging results of our work that we’re doing now with the coronavirus task force and today I would like to share a certain trends that we believe are important. If I may have the first slide please. And while that’s coming up, our most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus, both surfaces and in the air. We’ve seen a similar effect with both temperature and humidity as well, where increasing the temperature and humidity or both is generally less favorable to the virus. So, let me illustrate with this first slide. If you look to the right, you’ll see that term half-life with a bunch of timestamps on there. First, let me tell you what a half-life is. We don’t measure the virus as far as how long will it live on a surface. We have to measure the decay of the virus in terms of its half-life because we don’t know certain-

Bill Bryan: (25:27)
… That has a bearing on how long the virus is going to be alive and active. So, we measure it in half-life because half-life doesn’t change. So, if you look at an 18 hour half-life, what you’re basically saying is that every 18 hours the life of the virus is cut in half. So, if you start with 1000 particles of the virus, in 18 hours you’re down to 500, and 18 hours after that you’re down to 250 and so on and so forth. That’s important as I explain the rest of the chart. If you look at the first three lines, when you see the word surface, we’re talking about non porous surfaces. Door handles, stainless steel, and if you look at as the temperature increases as the humidity increases with no sun involved, you can see how drastically the half-life goes down on that virus.

Bill Bryan: (26:09)
So, the virus is dying at a much more rapid pace just from exposure to higher temperatures and just from exposure to humidity. If you look at the fourth line, you inject the sunlight into that, you inject UV rays into that, the same effects on line two as 70 to 75 degrees with 80% humidity on the surface and look at line four but now you inject the sun, the half-life goes from six hours to two minutes. That’s how much of an impact UV rays has on the virus. The last two lines are aerosols, what does it do in the air? We have a very unique capability, I was discussing this with the president prior to coming out, he wanted me to convey it to you on how we do this. I believe we’re the only lab in the country that has this capability, but if you can imagine a five gallon Home Depot bucket, we’re able to take a particle, and this was design developed and designed by our folks at the NBAC. We’re able to take a particle of a virus and suspend it in the air inside of this drum and hit it with various temperatures, various humidity levels, multiple different kinds of environmental conditions to include sunlight. And we’re able to measure the decay of that virus while it’s suspended in the air. This is how we do our aerosol testing.

Bill Bryan: (27:22)
We worked with John Hopkins’ applied physics lab and we actually developed a larger drum to actually do more testing and it’s four times the size of that. So, this is the capability that we bring to this effort. So, in summary, within the conditions we’ve tested today, the virus in droplets of saliva survives best in indoors and dry conditions. The virus does not survive as well in droplets of saliva, and that’s important because a lot of testing being done is not necessarily being done, number one, with the COVID-19 virus and number two, in saliva or respiratory fluids. And thirdly, the virus dies the quickest in the presence of direct sunlight under these conditions. And when you look at that chart, look at the aerosol as you breathe it, you put it in a room, 70 to 75 degrees, 20% humidity, low humidity. Half-life is about an hour, but you get outside and it cuts down to a minute and a half. Very significant difference when it gets hit with UV rays. Mr. president, while there are many unknown links in the COVID-19 transmission chain, we believe these trends can support practical decision making to lower the risks associated with the virus. If I could have my next slide and while that comes up, you’ll see a number of some practical applications.

Bill Bryan: (28:34)
For example, increasing the temperature and humidity of potentially contaminated indoor spaces appears to reduce the stability of the virus, and extra care may be warranted for dry environments that do not have exposure to solar light. We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes. Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva. This is not the end of our work. As we continue to characterize this virus and integrate our findings into practical applications to mitigate exposure and transmission. I would like to thank the president, thank the vice president for their ongoing support and leadership to the department and for their work in addressing this pandemic. I would also like to thank the scientists not only in S and T and the NBAC, but to the larger scientific and R and D community. Thank you very much.

Donald Trump: (29:46)
A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful. Steve, please.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here's the transcript and the last paragraph is Trump*s contribution to the portfolio of misinformation, quackery and jaw-dropping ignorance he has shared with the American people during the coronavirus pandemic.


Donald Trump: (29:46)
A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful. Steve, please.

So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said

"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said

"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".

Yes, that is what he actually said. Spin not necessary.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said

"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".

Here's what he said, right?

"And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with"

He is wondering if there's a way. Not '"go out and inhale Lysol because I said so", but asking if there's a way for docs to do it safely if it could help.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Here's what he said, right?

"And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with"

He is wondering if there's a way. Not '"go out and inhale Lysol because I said so", but asking if there's a way for docs to do it safely if it could help.

Spin away. TDS

He normally is so eloquent.

You did exactly what was claimed the Trump defenders would do regardless of what he actually meant.

Why is he now saying he was being sarcastic. If he didn't think it was a good idea or a potential cure he wouldn't have needed to walk it back.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Spin away. TDS

He normally is so eloquent.

You did exactly what was claimed the Trump defenders would do regardless of what he actually meant.

Why is he now saying he was being sarcastic. If he didn't think it was a good idea or a potential cure he wouldn't have needed to walk it back.

"He normally is so eloquent."

I certainly never said anything that stupid.

"You did exactly what was claimed the Trump defenders would do "

And you did exactly what I'd expect an irrational Trump hater to do.

"regardless of what he actually meant."

Paul, kindly tell us what you think he was trying to convey, when he used the words "is there a way". Do you understand the difference between saying "there is a way", and saying "is there a way"? One is a declaration, one is a question. A question aimed at a doctor.

Christ you've lost it, welcome to Petesville.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Paul, kindly tell us what you think he was trying to convey, when he used the words "is there a way". Do you understand the difference between saying "there is a way", and saying "is there a way"? One is a declaration, one is a question. A question aimed at a doctor.

Christ you've lost it, welcome to Petesville.

You are the one who has lost it trying to defend what he said. You're trying to parse words. It is another example of how stupid he is. No, one would with an ounce of common sense would have said it the way he did and no one would have ever made that statement with a national (world wide?) audience. At the least, they would have pulled a Dr. aside bf the presser to ask them any question. But bc he doesn't read the notes, ask questions or be prepared, you end up with these stupid things said.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You are the one who has lost it trying to defend what he said. You're trying to parse words. It is another example of how stupid he is. No, one would with an ounce of common sense would have said it the way he did and no one would have ever made that statement with a national (world wide?) audience. At the least, they would have pulled a Dr. aside bf the presser to ask them any question. But bc he doesn't read the notes, ask questions or be prepared, you end up with these stupid things said.

Why are you too chicken to answer my question? Why did he use the phrase "is there a way..."? What do you really, truly think he meant?

You're correct he is an awful speaker. Let us guess...if Biden wins, then PRESTO! Being a good speaker will no longer be important to you.

Trump should OBVIOUSLY let the experts speak to their expertise, and he should stick to summarizing results and policy. It's totally fair to criticize him for the idiotic and bratty way he inserts himself into these briefings. It's totally unfair, to say he was suggesting we should inject disinfectants. He was asking if there might be a way we could use it safely, and he was clearly asking a doctor. He wasn't making any suggestions that anyone do it. But you guys are physically incapable of resisting the impulse to act as if he said something not even close to what he actually said.

If there's a product, any product, which kills this virus on contact, why the hell wouldn't you ask a doctor if it's in any way possible to use that safely to help people who are dying? Why the hell wouldn't you ask if it's possible?

Asking if it could be possible, isn't anywhere near the same, as saying it works.

Try. Making. That. Wrong.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said

"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".

Where did he recommend it? Where? You conveniently left out where he asked "is there a way". What do you think he meant by that?

God almighty man, take of the TDF tinfoil hat.

[Got Stripers]

I was going to put this on the main forum, under the thread looking for good jokes, but this gem I saw on facebook belongs here.

A British doctor says "In Britain, medicine is so advance that we cut off a man's liver, put it in another man and in 6 weeks, he is looking for a job.

A German doctor says "That's nothing, in Germany we took part of a brain, put it in another man and in 4 weeks he is looking for a job.

The Russian doctor says "Gentlemen, we took half a heart from a man, put in in another mans chest and in 2 weeks he is looking for a job.

The American doctor laughs and says "You are all behind us. A few years ago, we took a man with no brains, no heart and no liver and made him President. Now the whole country is looking for a job".

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

God almighty man, take of the TDF tinfoil hat.

Where can I get one of those?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Where can I get one of those?
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That was pretty quick. Meant to say TDS obviously!

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Where did he recommend it? Where? You conveniently left out where he asked "is there a way"It was in the original transcript which I quoted. What do you think he meant by that? Don't know other than I think he is an idiot. He probably thought there is a potential chance we can all inject some version of Lysol into us. "What do you have to lose?"

God almighty man, take of the TDF tinfoil hat.

You're the one with the TDS trying to spin his original stupid statement.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're the one with the TDS trying to spin his original stupid statement.

Not "spin". I'm pointing out what he actually, literally, said. How can that be spin?

"Is there a way..."

He's asking a question, not stating a conclusion. What do you think he meant by using the phrase "is there a way". He also stated that these chemicals "do a number on the lungs", so he stated it's not currently safe.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Not "spin". I'm pointing out what he actually, literally, said. How can that be spin?

"Is there a way..."

He's asking a question, not stating a conclusion. What do you think he meant by using the phrase "is there a way". He also stated that these chemicals "do a number on the lungs", so he stated it's not currently safe.

Some (stupid) people are out there just to give the President his “gotcha.” No surprise to see who (stupid personified)is pushing it the hardest. At least he is educated.🤡
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Some (stupid) people are out there just to give the President his “gotcha.” No surprise to see who (stupid personified)is pushing it the hardest. At least he is educated.��
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its incredible.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Some (stupid) people are out there just to give the President his “gotcha.” No surprise to see who (stupid personified)is pushing it the hardest. At least he is educated.��
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And some (stupid) people are trying to defend the President no matter what he does. Anyone with a HS degree (well most people bc we really do have some stupid people here who demonstrate their stupidity and pettiness) would recognize what he was asking.