Anatomy of a viral lie

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I know how these interviews w/agenda go. Ask only questions that might bias heavily toward making Trump look bad. And then further edit in that direction and use slanted words, etc.

Any chief executive (never mind the Pres. of the US) should be able to turn any question around and come up with a positive response.

Unfortunately, Pres Trump can't hold his temper and responds like a little child and resorts to insults. Can't even craft a response to "what do you tell the people who are afraid". A question that Bush and Obama answered dozens of times.

I don't want a Pres. where we have to expect the experts on his team to clarify his remarks or make corrections. If he doesn't know the answers any good manager would turn to the expert and say "can you address that question" instead of saying something that is incorrect.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Any chief executive (never mind the Pres. of the US) should be able to turn any question around and come up with a positive response.

Unfortunately, Pres Trump can't hold his temper and responds like a little child and resorts to insults. Can't even craft a response to "what do you tell the people who are afraid". A question that Bush and Obama answered dozens of times.

I don't want a Pres. where we have to expect the experts on his team to clarify his remarks or make corrections. If he doesn't know the answers any good manager would turn to the expert and say "can you address that question" instead of saying something that is incorrect.

totally agree that his immediate response will
be that of a vindictive baby.

how about his policies, do those matter at all, or is delivery all that matters now. He restricted travel from china which obviously helped, and got called a xenophobe.

And even CNNs Jake Tapper
explicitly said that Trump didn’t call the virus a hoax, he was talking about the media response.

i agree Trump is a vindictive baby, but maybe if the media could
stop lying and be accurate for two consecutive seconds where he’s concerned, that would help.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the media could stop lying and be accurate for two consecutive seconds where he’s concerned, that would help.
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So he didn't down play the virus for a few weeks until he then said he knew it was a pandemic all along?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So he didn't down play the virus for a few weeks until he then said he knew it was a pandemic all along?

I never got, from his words, that the virus was not a serious threat. I got that he tried to calm fears. But we were constantly being bombarded by experts and media of what precautions we should take and that Trump agreed with. And that we could mitigate the effects of the virus if we took them. I don't recall the Dems playing it up from the start. They criticized Trump, as Jim keeps reminding us, for so quickly making a travel ban from China. That criticism downplayed the threat. How was Trump's ban down playing? Sounded like a defense against a serious threat.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I never got, from his words, that the virus was not a serious threat.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Wasn't difficult.

[Got Stripers]

No Dr. Fauci, probably would have been an interesting podium moment for him after Trump signals the real potential to open the US for business after the 15 days. Every medical expert would vehemently recommend against that, thanks again Donald for this mixed messaging it’s exactly what the country DOESN’T need.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So he didn't down play the virus for a few weeks until he then said he knew it was a pandemic all along?

He took the bold step of restricting travel from China on day one. And his thanks for that, is that the guy you're going to vote for, called him a xenophobe for doing so.

So Biden (who you will vote for) claims Trump went too far, you say he didn't go far enough...which is it?

I have hated much of what Trump has said (going after a reporter, no matter how big a clown he may be, has no place right now), I like the actions he is taking.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He took the bold step of restricting travel from China on day one. And his thanks for that, is that the guy you're going to vote for, called him a xenophobe for doing so.

So Biden (who you will vote for) claims Trump went too far, you say he didn't go far enough...which is it?

I have hated much of what Trump has said (going after a reporter, no matter how big a clown he may be, has no place right now), I like the actions he is taking.

and then he didn't do a thing but down play it.

So you will vote for Trump who cost people's lives by downplaying it and then said he knew it was going to be a pandemic? Why do say it bothers you when he lies but you continue to support him? What do you say to the people who didn't do anything based on his words and his lies caused people to die?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So you will vote for Trump who cost people's lives by downplaying it and then said he knew it was going to be a pandemic? Why do say it bothers you when he lies but you continue to support him? What do you say to the people who didn't do anything based on his words and his lies caused people to die?

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

and then he didn't do a thing but down play it.

So you will vote for Trump who cost people's lives by downplaying it and then said he knew it was going to be a pandemic? Why do say it bothers you when he lies but you continue to support him? What do you say to the people who didn't do anything based on his words and his lies caused people to die?

Not a syllable about Biden's reaction to the Trump travel ban. Not. A. Syllable.

I see zero evidence that Trump will have caused deaths. If the media and democrats in Congress called him a nationalist xenophobe for restricting travel from China, what would they have done if he put the country in lockdown on day one? Or declared martial law, the liberals would have just loved that.

No matter what he does, no matter what, it's wrong, sinister, and bigoted.

I don't have to avoid answering your questions, because I have thought about my positions, they aren't a thoughtless reflex to love anybody or to hate anybody.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Not a syllable about Biden's reaction to the Trump travel ban. Not. A. Syllable.

I see zero evidence that Trump will have caused deaths. If the media and democrats in Congress called him a nationalist xenophobe for restricting travel from China, what would they have done if he put the country in lockdown on day one? Or declared martial law, the liberals would have just loved that.

No matter what he does, no matter what, it's wrong, sinister, and bigoted.

I don't have to avoid answering your questions, because I have thought about my positions, they aren't a thoughtless reflex to love anybody or to hate anybody.

Didn't we cover this many, many, many times previously? But you did avoid my question - his lies caused people not to worry about what he later said was a pandemic. What we are seeing now is people who where infected a week ago and those people who had the virus a week ago where infected the week before. If Trump said we have a pandemic, people would have taken the precautions they are taking today. Instead we trusted him and he admitted he lied bc he claimed he knew it was a pandemic all along while telling us it wasn't that bad.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

totally agree that his immediate response will be that of a vindictive baby.

Really? His responses seem to be calculated for effect. Even you say that Trump's lives in the Dems head, or something like that.

if the media could
stop lying and be accurate for two consecutive seconds where he’s concerned, that would help.
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And that is the germ that breeds his calculated responses.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

And that is the germ that breeds his calculated responses.

I don't like him calling out a specific reporter in a briefing about a pandemic. I have no problem with him calmly and correctly pointing out the laughable media bias.

Let them go berserk. It would be more presidential, if could rise above it for two weeks. I know it's not his style, and often being non-presidential has been exactly what we need.