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Old 11-18-2019, 11:31 AM   #1
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They are all great men and women, highly respected, great background, distinguished careers UNTIL they cross him or don’t agree with him publicly and in support of anything he has or wants to do; then they all apparently regardless of their service to this country become something else. When Trump turns on you it’s all out smear, denigrate, belittle, name call and it really only shows everyone the true character of this clown.
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:52 PM   #2
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When Trump turns on you it’s all out smear, denigrate, belittle, name call and it really only shows everyone the true character of this clown.

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ummm.....have you watched the democraps go after people that they disagree with????
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:09 PM   #3
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They are all great men and women, highly respected, great background, distinguished careers.

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you say so. do you know how common it is, for
new administrations
to come in and clean hose? the firings are common. the only unique thing about trump, is his idiotic tweets.

clinton and obama sure did it.
only a character flaw when trump
does it.
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:25 PM   #4
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you say so. do you know how common it is, for
new administrations
to come in and clean hose? the firings are common. the only unique thing about trump, is his idiotic tweets.

clinton and obama sure did it.
only a character flaw when trump
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That is baloney, cite some evidence of when Career diplomats were cleaned out. I would expect it would be true for Political Appointees (PA)
Career diplomats postings typically last about 3 years.
Here is the list of currently serving ambassadors by appointment date.
It is not the complete list but Floridaman has made numerous appointments of Career diplomats (CD) since being inaugurated.
Others have paid or made donations of millions and become ambassadors.


Malawi List Robert K. Scott CD Lilongwe December 12, 2014
Palau[58] List Amy J. Hyatt CD Koror December 12, 2014
Romania List Hans G. Klemm[62] CD Bucharest August 5, 2015
Eswatini (Swaziland)[34] List Lisa J. Peterson CD Mbabane November 19, 2015
Oman List Marc Jonathan Sievers CD Muscat November 19, 2015
Uganda List Deborah R. Malac CD Kampala November 19, 2015
Antigua and Barbuda[11] List Linda Swartz Taglialatela[12] CD Bridgetown December 9, 2015
Barbados[11] List Linda Swartz Taglialatela[12] CD Bridgetown December 9, 2015
Dominica[11] List Linda Swartz Taglialatela[12] CD Bridgetown December 9, 2015
Grenada[11] List Linda Swartz Taglialatela[12] CD Bridgetown December 9, 2015
Saint Kitts and Nevis[11] List Linda Swartz Taglialatela[12] CD Bridgetown December 9, 2015
Saint Lucia[11] List Linda Swartz Taglialatela[12] CD Bridgetown December 9, 2015
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines[11] List Linda Swartz Taglialatela[12] CD Bridgetown December 9, 2015
Burma (Myanmar)[21] List Scot Marciel CD Rangoon [9] February 9, 2016
Lebanon List Elizabeth Holzhall Richard CD Beirut May 17, 2016
Liberia List Christine A. Elder CD Monrovia May 17, 2016
Marshall Islands List Karen B. Stewart CD Majuro May 17, 2016
Federated States of Micronesia Micronesia List Robert Riley CD Kolonia May 17, 2016
Greece List Geoffrey Pyatt CD Athens [20] July 14, 2016
Kuwait List Lawrence Robert Silverman CD Kuwait City July 14, 2016
Burkina Faso List Andrew Robert Young CD Ouagadougou September 28, 2016
Indonesia List Joseph R. Donovan Jr. CD Jakarta [23] September 28, 2016
Laos List Rena Bitter CD Vientiane September 28, 2016
Philippines[58] List Sung Y. Kim CD Manila [39] September 28, 2016
Malaysia List Kamala Shirin Lakhdhir CD Kuala Lumpur December 9, 2016
Israel List David M. Friedman PA Jerusalem [26] March 23, 2017
Republic of the Congo Congo-Brazzaville List Todd Haskell CD Brazzaville May 18, 2017
Guinea-Bissau[41] List Tulinabo S. Mushingi CD Bissau VPP May 18, 2017
Senegal[41] List Tulinabo S. Mushingi CD Dakar May 18, 2017
China List Terry Branstad PA Beijing [11] May 22, 2017
New Zealand[55] List Scott Brown PA Wellington [36] June 8, 2017
Samoa[55] List Scott Brown PA Matafele Apia June 8, 2017
Algeria List John Desrocher CD Algiers August 3, 2017
Ethiopia List Michael A. Raynor CD Addis Ababa August 3, 2017
Peru List Krishna Urs CD Lima August 3, 2017
Sierra Leone List Maria Brewer CD Freetown August 3, 2017
Costa Rica List Sharon Day PA San José August 3, 2017
Italy[44] List Lewis Eisenberg PA Rome [27] August 3, 2017
Portugal List George Edward Glass PA Lisbon [41] August 3, 2017

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you say so. do you know how common it is, for
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So you don't see a difference in how every other admin. replaces people with how Trump replaced her?
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So you don't see a difference in how every other admin. replaces people with how Trump replaced her?
nope. only to the way he would
have tweeted about it. only in that he’d be juvenile and vulgar about it.

bill clinton, i believe, fired every single us attorney he inherited.
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nope. only to the way he would
have tweeted about it. only in that he’d be juvenile and vulgar about it.

bill clinton, i believe, fired every single us attorney he inherited.
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Bill could have, I don't know - maybe some other Pres. did also.

So it is as GOS said - smear, denigrate, belittle and name call. The Trump admin. is so inept (and classless) that they couldn't let everyone go bc they couldn't vet everyone and then complain later about the person.

So even thought Trump could get rid of her you don't mind that it could have been bc (as Pete said)?

"In her testimony, Yovanovitch detailed how Giuliani and his associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman worked with a corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor to orchestrate a smear campaign against her, oust her from her post as ambassador, and "circumvent official channels" of Ukraine policy. Yovanovitch also testified, "Perhaps it was not surprising that when our anti-corruption efforts got in the way of the desire for profit or power, Ukrainians who preferred to play by the old, corrupt rules sought to remove me. What continues to amaze me is that they found Americans willing to partner with them and, working together, they apparently succeeded in orchestrating the removal of a U.S. ambassador. How could our system fail like this? How is it that foreign corrupt interests could manipulate our government?" While Yovanovitch was testifying, Trump denigrated her on Twitter. When read what the president had written about her, Yovanovitch testified: "It's very intimidating. I can't speak to what the president is trying to do, but the effect is to be intimidating."
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