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05-06-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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I read the footnotes on p. 15 and p.16. Even though I'm not a lawyer, I didn't see anywhere in there, that the FBI revealed that the dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign. Could you point that part out to me, please? |
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05-06-2019, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I read the footnotes on p. 15 and p.16. Even though I'm not a lawyer, I didn't see anywhere in there, that the FBI revealed that the dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign. Could you point that part out to me, please?
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Why do you think that is important, the sentence reads that the FBI speculates that the identified US person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign. Do you think it would have been somehow different if it was Ted Cruz or his wife?
You seem to think it is good when Candidate #1 calls out for help in public from Russia, accepts and appreciates that help, but exhibit concern when others look at his relationship with Russia.
Just what did he really talk about in his last telecon with Putin? Didn't have time in an hour and a half to tell him not to interfere in US elections? Or didn't have the balls?
As usual
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05-06-2019, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Just what did he really talk about in his last telecon with Putin? Didn't have time in an hour and a half to tell him not to interfere in US elections? Or didn't have the balls?
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If you read (and believe) the Russian notes from the call it sounds like Putin was giving Trump his marching orders for the next 12 months.
And why would Trump warn Putin off. Trump encourages Russian interference. |
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05-06-2019, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I read the footnotes on p. 15 and p.16. Even though I'm not a lawyer, I didn't see anywhere in there, that the FBI revealed that the dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign. Could you point that part out to me, please?
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They clearly lay out that the material could be political in nature and intended to hurt Candidate #1's campaign. They're not going to name the Clinton campaign by name, it's not how the application process works.
This is after dozens of redacted pages that outline secret information to justify the warrant. |
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05-06-2019, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
They clearly lay out that the material could be political in nature and intended to hurt Candidate #1's campaign. They're not going to name the Clinton campaign by name, it's not how the application process works.
This is after dozens of redacted pages that outline secret information to justify the warrant.
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Candidate #1 is Trump.
I thought about just letting you go on and on and let you spin why Candidate 1 was the victim....would have been interesting to say the least  |
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05-06-2019, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Candidate #1 is Trump.
I thought about just letting you go on and on and let you spin why Candidate 1 was the victim....would have been interesting to say the least |
I didn’t say candidate #1 was clinton. Two separate statements.
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05-06-2019, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I didn’t say candidate #1 was clinton. Two separate statements.
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So you're saying that the material was intended to hurt Trump's campaign? |
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05-06-2019, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
So you're saying that the material was intended to hurt Trump's campaign?
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Opposition research usually is. What’s the problem?
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05-06-2019, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Opposition research usually is. What’s the problem?
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How about releasing Page's name to the media? Is that problematic, to tell the media that a US citizen is a Russian agent, when he still hasn't been charged with anything? What if that was done, specifically to hurt Trump or his campaign? Would that be a problem?
I agree, political opposition research isn't necessarily fabricated. But it should be taken with a grain of salt, not used to suspend the constitutional rights of a US citizen. |
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