Hilary email

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You keep getting stuck on the legality issue (which is still being investigated?) but avoiding the "stupid, incompetent" issue.

I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.

Still avoiding the stupid, incompetent issue.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Still avoiding the stupid, incompetent issue.

I think that's long since been addressed.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.

That's the first time I have heard reference to the "last 5 Secretaries. Please post a source of your talking points
Are they not investigating her server ?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

That's the first time I have heard reference to the "last 5 Secretaries. Please post a source of your talking points
Are they not investigating her server ?
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Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.

In October 2014, the State Department asked four former secretaries to turn over e-mails in their private possession.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7ae_story.html

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.

So she is being investigated . You lied again but I can see where you have a tough time with that .

And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also . A predictable move and typical of this administration and of the Clintons.
So freaking pathetic
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.

right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

So she is being investigated . You lied again but I can see where you have a tough time with that .

And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also . A predictable move and typical of this administration and of the Clintons.
So freaking pathetic
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You guys use the word lie so much I'm not sure what it means any more.

The FBI investigation is about potential mishandling of information, it's not focused on Hillary Clinton. The NYT wrongly reported at the onset she was the target of a criminal probe which was not true.

If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president

The FBI doesn't have the power to indict neither Clinton or her server. If they did find evidence of criminal behavior there would have to be a grand jury and federal prosecutor before anyone could be indicted, which isn't likely in any case...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

You guys use the word lie so much I'm not sure what it means any more.

if you need a refresher course...just read any of your posts

"A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false"

don't fret...if we've learned anything from the Clinton's it's that lies are frequent, necessary and often admirable when well told....

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.

That is the defense strategy of a guilty administration . You're making my argument.
Do you keep picking on Colin Powell because he's black ?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president

To quote Mater, "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

To quote Mater, "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!"

even funnier when Spence didn't get it

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I think that's long since been addressed.

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

And yet as unlikeable as she is, the GOP is on the verge of nominating someone who would not only hand her the Presidency, he might well give Congress back to them, too. There are a lot more GOP senate seats up for re-election that Democrat (twice as many, I think). Trump will galvanize Democrats, and keep conservatives home. Incredible.

The Democrats are begging us to take the Oval Office by going with her, and we are saying "no, thanks, and you can keep Congress, too".

Sigh.

I hear Paraguay is pretty nice.

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

if you need a refresher course...just read any of your posts

"A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false"

don't fret...if we've learned anything from the Clinton's it's that lies are frequent, necessary and often admirable when well told....

Can you name ONE?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Can you name ONE?

Really? My text in quotation marks is to the best of my recollection...

Bill: "I did not have inappropriate sexual relations with that girl (Monica Lewinski)". The man was disbarred. Even among lawyers, he stands out as being immoral, and that's saying something.

Hilary - (1) "Bill did not cheat on me (see his lie above), but we are the victims (violins, please) of a vast right-wing conspiracy". Not just any right-wing conspiracy mind you, but a vast one. Vast. (2) "We were 'broke' when we left the White House". If that's true, and it's not, where did they get the money to reimburse the feds for all the loot they stole out of the White House and Air Force One, on their way out of town? I think they took the piano, rugs, ashtrays, light fixtures, copper wiring, dinner china, etc...(3) something about coming under sniper fire somewhere...?

Is that enough?

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

That is the defense strategy of a guilty administration . You're making my argument.
Do you keep picking on Colin Powell because he's black ?
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Did you even read my post? That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not picking on Powell, he came out and said he basically did the same thing.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Did you even read my post? That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not picking on Powell, he came out and said he basically did the same thing.

sounded pretty racist to me

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Really? My text in quotation marks is to the best of my recollection...

If you're going to use quotes you should actually quote.

He said every one of my posts I assumed he was calling me a liar.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

Well, at least your not stretching

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Did you even read my post? That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not picking on Powell, he came out and said he basically did the same thing.

Yes I read your post. We all know that the state department would not be investigating the other Secretaries of State, in the hope of finding somebody who did something halfway similar to what Hillary did unless it could be used to somehow justify what Hillary had done .
You keep bringing up Powell for some reason , as bringing up his name makes him somehow guilty of the same thing . You know he had a new system , an undependable system and you know they were working on problems. So my only conclusion is , you don't like black people .
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Well, at least your not stretching

Why on earth would I imitate your style?

You will find that I was spot on if you would do the search. Of course, knowing how you wander off topic into your own version of the context, the search would only confirm your own perspective. Which would just turn up apples instead of oranges.

Besides, this has long since been addressed.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Yes I read your post. We all know that the state department would not be investigating the other Secretaries of State, in the hope of finding somebody who did something halfway similar to what Hillary did unless it could be used to somehow justify what Hillary had done .
You keep bringing up Powell for some reason , as bringing up his name makes him somehow guilty of the same thing . You know he had a new system , an undependable system and you know they were working on problems. So my only conclusion is , you don't like black people .
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The State Department isn't investigating the former Secretaries email, the FBI is...I don't believe it was State's request. I would assume they're trying to ascertain if this is a systemic issue or something more recent.

Your Powell remark continues to make no sense. At the time he was trying to modernize the state.gov computers get people to use email, he's publicly stated he didn't realize there was any issue with using private email.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by scottw

sounded pretty racist to me

It's probably some code . . .

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Can you name ONE?

If you're going to use quotes you should actually quote.

He said every one of my posts I assumed he was calling me a liar.

"You guys use the word lie so much I'm not sure what it means any more."I don't believe you

"I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated" this is a good one

"The FBI doesn't have the power to indict neither Clinton or her server." you have this weird double negative thing going on lately

"I would assume they're trying to ascertain if this is a systemic issue or something more recent." it's an HRC issue

"If they did find evidence of criminal behavior there would have to be a grand jury and federal prosecutor before anyone could be indicted, which isn't likely in any case..." really?

"The FBI investigation is about potential mishandling of information, it's not focused on Hillary Clinton." again...it's an HRC issue

"Clinton's not an IT person, she likely had someone tell her it was good enough for non-sensitive communication. " this is laughable for so many reasons

"Intuition." even more laughable


you can assume what you'd like, perhaps the reason you can't tell what lie means anymore is actually because you spend so much time torturing the truth and it's all just a blur to you, it certainly is with the Clinton's where we've learned that we need to dissect each statement because they amuse themselves by playing wordsmith with each in order to deflect or cover their asses ....I'm sure you have a more "gray" concept of what a lie is but I provided a simple black and white definition for you....
"A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false"....this is just the current page, the previous contain a wealth of dubious sophistry....I know...I know...all taken out of "context"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by buckman

And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also .

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of course, don't you recall when Nixon was being investigated....I mean when Nixon's TAPES were being investigate for wrong doing.... the previous 5 Presidents tapes were also investigated to determine if there was anything incriminating on them or if they erased stuff...or....you know...if the tapes had somehow mishandled themselves ?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.

How about we focus on the one SOS who is actually RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.....
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

How about we focus on the one SOS who is actually RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.....
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Well, you have to establish a baseline. If others using private email to transfer similar information then Clinton's behavior isn't quite so scandalous now is it?

[The Dad Fisherman]

So now we are fine tuning the rules against a baseline? Thought rules were rules
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