Hilary email

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

State.gov does on the classified side. On the unclassified side they still have better mechanisms at State than on the bathroom side.

My understanding is that it's a totally different system. Agree state.gov has more resources, but that didn't make her use of a server illegal. It was a security gap that they corrected. Clinton's not an IT person, she likely had someone tell her it was good enough for non-sensitive communication. Powell certainly did and there were plenty of hackers in 2005.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

My understanding is that it's a totally different system. Agree state.gov has more resources, but that didn't make her use of a server illegal.

You keep getting stuck on the legality issue (which is still being investigated?) but avoiding the "stupid, incompetent" issue.

It was a security gap that they corrected. Clinton's not an IT person, she likely had someone tell her (intuition?) it was good enough for non-sensitive communication. Powell certainly did and there were plenty of hackers in 2005.

"had someone tell her"? Stephens told her that it was good enough and probably "smart" enough to not have a show of American force at the consulate, or in Libya in general. That really turned out well. Yeah, her style of leading on bad advice will make her a "good enough" President.

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Originally Posted by detbuch

You keep getting stuck on the legality issue (which is still being investigated?) but avoiding the "stupid, incompetent" issue.

I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.

Still avoiding the stupid, incompetent issue.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Still avoiding the stupid, incompetent issue.

I think that's long since been addressed.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I think that's long since been addressed.

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

And yet as unlikeable as she is, the GOP is on the verge of nominating someone who would not only hand her the Presidency, he might well give Congress back to them, too. There are a lot more GOP senate seats up for re-election that Democrat (twice as many, I think). Trump will galvanize Democrats, and keep conservatives home. Incredible.

The Democrats are begging us to take the Oval Office by going with her, and we are saying "no, thanks, and you can keep Congress, too".

Sigh.

I hear Paraguay is pretty nice.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

Well, at least your not stretching

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

"Stupid is what stupid does."

Oh, and she changed her tune again, yesterday I saw where she said,
I did nothing wrong, where several weeks ago she apologized. Unstable at the least.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated as the DOJ has already chimed in on this. The FBI is more broadly investigating if any classified information was mishandled by the last 5 Secretaries including Clinton.

That's the first time I have heard reference to the "last 5 Secretaries. Please post a source of your talking points
Are they not investigating her server ?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

That's the first time I have heard reference to the "last 5 Secretaries. Please post a source of your talking points
Are they not investigating her server ?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.

In October 2014, the State Department asked four former secretaries to turn over e-mails in their private possession.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7ae_story.html

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.

So she is being investigated . You lied again but I can see where you have a tough time with that .

And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also . A predictable move and typical of this administration and of the Clintons.
So freaking pathetic
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

So she is being investigated . You lied again but I can see where you have a tough time with that .

And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also . A predictable move and typical of this administration and of the Clintons.
So freaking pathetic
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You guys use the word lie so much I'm not sure what it means any more.

The FBI investigation is about potential mishandling of information, it's not focused on Hillary Clinton. The NYT wrongly reported at the onset she was the target of a criminal probe which was not true.

If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by buckman

And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also .

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of course, don't you recall when Nixon was being investigated....I mean when Nixon's TAPES were being investigate for wrong doing.... the previous 5 Presidents tapes were also investigated to determine if there was anything incriminating on them or if they erased stuff...or....you know...if the tapes had somehow mishandled themselves ?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, the FBI is investigating her server to determine if any classified material was mishandled.

right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president

The FBI doesn't have the power to indict neither Clinton or her server. If they did find evidence of criminal behavior there would have to be a grand jury and federal prosecutor before anyone could be indicted, which isn't likely in any case...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president

To quote Mater, "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!"