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Old 11-23-2014, 08:41 AM   #1
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I recall Obama had a democratic super majority in congress, for a fair portion of his first 2 years. I wonder why he never touched this issue then?
Healthcare was the priority and I'd wager he thought immigration reform had more bi-partisan support. At least before the tea party it appeared as though it did.

Congress can't really de-fund the action without compromising efforts to deport the higher priority criminals etc...

All this action did was just move a group to the end of the line. It doesn't really provide for any new benefits or change any laws. If anything the significance is in the scale, but previous Presidents have gone much deeper via executive action. The odds of a Constitutional issue aren't looking good at the moment.

How much of this is really just about Obama? If he simply did what Reagan or Bush 41 did you'd be having the same hater fits.

The bottom line is that there will still be plenty of illegal immigrants out there to send home.

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Old 11-23-2014, 11:44 AM   #2
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Healthcare was the priority and I'd wager he thought immigration reform had more bi-partisan support.

granting amnesty and immigration reform are not the same thing

How much of this is really just about Obama?
we know that Obama makes everything about Obama

The bottom line is that there will still be plenty of illegal immigrants out there to send home. no doubt there there will be a steady increase
this is hilarious from Homeland Security.....http://www.uscis.gov/immigrationaction

Executive Actions on Immigration

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On November 20, 2014, the President announced a series of executive actions to crack down on illegal immigration at the border, prioritize deporting felons not families, and require certain undocumented immigrants to pass a criminal background check and pay taxes in order to temporarily stay in the U.S. without fear of deportation.

These initiatives include:

Expanding the population eligible for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program to young people who came to this country before turning 16 years old and have been present since January 1, 2010, and extending the period of DACA and work authorization from two years to three years | Details

Allowing parents of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents who have been present in the country since January 1, 2010, to request deferred action and employment authorization for three years, in a new Deferred Action for Parental Accountability program, provided they pass required background checks | Details

Expanding the use of provisional waivers of unlawful presence to include the spouses and sons and daughters of lawful permanent residents and the sons and daughters of U.S. citizens | Details

Modernizing, improving and clarifying immigrant and nonimmigrant programs to grow our economy and create jobs | Details

Promoting citizenship education and public awareness for lawful permanent residents and providing an option for naturalization applicants to use credit cards to pay the application fee | Details



cracking down on illegal immigration at the border huh???
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:52 PM   #3
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Healthcare was the priority and I'd wager he thought immigration reform had more bi-partisan support. At least before the tea party it appeared as though it did.

Congress can't really de-fund the action without compromising efforts to deport the higher priority criminals etc...

All this action did was just move a group to the end of the line. It doesn't really provide for any new benefits or change any laws. If anything the significance is in the scale, but previous Presidents have gone much deeper via executive action. The odds of a Constitutional issue aren't looking good at the moment.

How much of this is really just about Obama? If he simply did what Reagan or Bush 41 did you'd be having the same hater fits.

The bottom line is that there will still be plenty of illegal immigrants out there to send home.
"I'd wager he thought immigration reform had more bi-partisan support"

Where to start. He was caught on video repeatedly during his first 2 years, saying that he couldn't implement immigration reform by executive action.

Nothing he does has bipartisan support, because his every thought and instinct are to the left of Mao, and he refuses to admit he's wrong on anything. He hasn't been the uniter we were expecting.

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The bottom line is that there will still be plenty of illegal immigrants out there to send home"

No, that's not the bottom line. The bottom line is that El Duce doesn't think current codified laws are valid unless he happens to like them. Previously passed laws only exist if he allows it.
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