Is Iraq going to fall?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I always laugh at the line that people who voted in favor of war (based on either a huge lie or a huge failure) should be held to that vote.

So what was it - a huge intelligence failure or a huge lie?

Hilary (and many other Dems) saw the same evidence that Bush and his staff did, and came to the same conclusion. Now, if Bush manufactured evidence to pursuade the Senate Democrats, she should not be held accountable (and he would have been impeached and prosecuted). If what she saw was an honest presentation of available evidence, then she reached the same wrong conclusion that Bush did.

It was an intelligence failure. Hilary, in particular, had said that she (and he hubby) were certain that Iraq had WMDs.

Hilary took it further and told Gen Petreus (when he told the senate the benefits he though tthe surge could bring) that to believe what the general was saying, "requires the willful suspension of disbelief." In other words, she told Petreus he was lying about what h ethought the Surge could do.

Once again, Hilary was absolutely wrong, because the Surge worked beautifully. Unlike being wrong about WMDs, she was in a minority of people who denied the Surge could work. And she's qualified to be POTUS?