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Old 12-20-2018, 12:09 PM   #7
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
I’m against a simple elegant and incorrect solution to a complex problem.
There’s horrific situations in a number of countries in Central America
Building a wall for billions that you can scale with a ladder and a rope worth $500 is simplistic
People don’t hand carry drugs across the border in any quantity, it comes by truck, plane and boat and still would.
We also need immigration reform along with how we do work permits, and clamp down on the illegal workers like the ones Trump has hired in the past
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If you want a complex solution, a wall would be part of it, not the whole of it. It won't stop boats and planes (don't know what your complex solution would) but it would stop a lot of people and slow down a bunch too. And would make it more feasible for a border security force to do its job. And $20 billion is a tiny drip of money that the federal government spends on dip-chit projects.

As for improving conditions in the countries from which the illegals come, we can't nation build the world. If we ease the internal pressures of the poorly governed nations by accepting a steady flow of their population, the crisis needed for their reform is eased and the rotten conditions will remain.

In order to have a successful nation state, its citizens must assure that state. The citizens must demand their rights or revolt.
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