What's up with this Jonathan Gruber guy?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

But the important thing, as Spence says, is not the tortured, lying, verbiage. The important thing is something good for the country. So if you pick the progressive road, and if it is necessary to say untrue things or make impossible promises to do good for the country, you have to understand that most people are not smart enough to understand what the good is. The qualified experts do know what the good is. And, whatever means, including lying, are necessary to give the ignorant or stupid people the good, then . . . that is good.

surely folks like Spence, now that the pendulum is swinging(interesting if you've read the articles proclaiming the Republican party "dead" over the last several years and the predictions of democrats maintaining power for the foreseeable future), will have nothing to say if the other side engages in "tortured, lying, verbiage" having condoned and defended it all these years, ignores established law and the Constitution that they are sworn to uphold , rams laws through the legislative process without regard to process, selectively enforce, or not, laws and modify them as seen fit from the executive branch or if future presidents should stroll to the podium and proclaim executive orders ignoring the separation of powers....in order to "do something good for the country"