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		|  11-01-2009, 04:27 PM | #1 |  
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 Looking to build a conventional for bucktailing, eels and spooling plugs. Throw up to 3-4oz. Considering fiberglass for it's durability and occassional lifting of smallish fish up. I considered a SB1213M, SB1363M, SB1362M all cut to 10'. I use a 1201M for spinning but want to try the conventional. Suggestions! |  
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		|  11-01-2009, 06:13 PM | #2 |  
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				 | I have a white spiral lami for sale in the classifieds that might be a good fit.  Price is right. |  
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		|  11-01-2009, 08:49 PM | #3 |  
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				 | i use a 1208 conventional and it does a great job. |  
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		|  11-01-2009, 10:02 PM | #4 |  
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				 | I love my sb1213m at the breachway...  It's a howitzer   Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
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		|  11-02-2009, 11:55 AM | #5 |  
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				 | sb1213m is perfect. it's a little heavy being glass and thick walled, but it's a work horse. i would not suggest the 2m for anything. blank is too thin and a lot better blanks around now. a sb1363m cut to 10' is nice too. the tip is a little softer than the 121. you'll need a 15 tube on the 121 and sometimes a 16 tube is needed depending on how well it was cut from the factory.
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		|  11-02-2009, 06:35 PM | #6 |  
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				 | Thanks Dave. I have a sb1363m in spin which i don't use. i just might convert. How about a s-glass blank? MSB1362F or 3M? Lighter and being a composite, the best of both worlds. |  
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		|  11-02-2009, 06:42 PM | #7 |  
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				 | Breachways, I don't know but the 1205 makes a good conventional that you would use plenty of other places as well. |  
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		|  11-03-2009, 09:13 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by pbadad  Thanks Dave. I have a sb1363m in spin which i don't use. i just might convert. How about a s-glass blank? MSB1362F or 3M? Lighter and being a composite, the best of both worlds. |  if you're going to look into s-glass, look into the super seeker composites. i haven't played with the surf blanks too much, but the inshore and offshore models are pretty industructible. the lami s-glass blanks are ssb, there isn't a msb. the 2f is a nice blank on the open beach, but i'd stick with a 3m for a jetty. |  
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		|  11-03-2009, 06:03 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by SeaWolf  if you're going to look into s-glass, look into the super seeker composites. i haven't played with the surf blanks too much, but the inshore and offshore models are pretty industructible. the lami s-glass blanks are ssb, there isn't a msb. the 2f is a nice blank on the open beach, but i'd stick with a 3m for a jetty. |  I think he might be thinking of the SMB 108 3M, the longest "live bait" model in S-glass.
 
I'm not a big fan of glass any more, as I think that the GSB line from Lami is plenty durable, as are some of the stronger XRA blanks like the 1205 and 126 1MH. 90% or more of the guys who rock-hop at tough places like Montauk use the GSB Lamis (usually the 120 1M), and I think that style of fishing is more abusive to rods than jetty fishing--just my two cents.
 
I'm 56 years old and more than a hour of casting with a SB 121 3M really wears on me, and I can't ever picture myself using even an S-glass 11-1/2 footer again. |  
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		|  11-03-2009, 07:49 PM | #10 |  
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				 | I like the durability of glass but yes the weight is a killer. My sb1363m cut to 10'6" weighs in at 18oz. I use a 1201M spinner and it's a strong blank. I was thinking of glass for price and strength. I would use this not as frequent as the 1201m. I was just looking for options. |  
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		|  11-03-2009, 08:10 PM | #11 |  
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				 | S-glass isn't any more durable than graphite IMO. Especially the new mustard colored Lami S-glass. |  
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		|  11-07-2009, 02:48 AM | #12 |  
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				 | Depends on which breachway. At quonny or weekapaug you could use a GSb or an arra 1205 but at charlestown way above the water I would want a real beater that you won't mind getting beat up. Since you are coming from CT you are probably fishing the closer one? |  
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		|  11-08-2009, 05:49 PM | #13 |  
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				 | Weekapaug is a close second to Charleston. Sometimes a lift landing is needed at all three. I checked out a Super Seeker in Jersey this weekend. a very serious and durable blank. The only drawback is the price since this is an occassional use rod. GSB 1201M or sb1363m cut to 10' are likely the choices. |  
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		|  11-09-2009, 01:31 PM | #14 |  
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				 | you lift a fish and you are asking for trouble. i know we all do it, but i would not suggest it on a graphite blank. even glass at times is pushing it. in most cases, you are high sticking and the blank will break. i will agree on a beater rod, which is why i shy away from graphite on a jetty. it will fall, it will get hit, you will bang it around. if you are fishing braid, graphite offers little advantages on a jetty to me. |  
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