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				In their platform, the Texas Republicans invoked “God” or the “Creator” 18 times and “sovereignty” or sovereign power 24 times. And the word “democracy”? Only once — in reference to China. 
 
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texas republicans are in favor of big government.
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		 Here is a list of Republicans who spoke out against U.S. Senate candidate and former Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens's violent terrorist video yesterday: 
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				texas republicans don’t t like 
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texas republicans are in favor of big government. 
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 Ask them 
 
Texas GOP wants to vote on whether to secede from US
 
Republicans say Texas “should reassert its status as an independent nation” and hold referendum in 2023
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Texas GOP wants to vote on whether to secede from US 
 
Republicans say Texas “should reassert its status as an independent nation” and hold referendum in 2023 
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 if you don’t know how Texans feel about freedom, you are clueless.
 
i think o splitting the country in two is a great idea. there’s absolutely nothing that unites us anymore, zip.  
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		 The Faux is strong in you. 
 
I don't think people realize just how insanely dangerous it is that right wing media can literally make up a story and it is taken as fact by millions.  
 
This is how Nazism rose. It's the essence of totalitarianism. Orwell was more concerned about it than war itself. 
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				if you don’t know how Texans feel about freedom, you are clueless. 
 
i think o splitting the country in two is a great idea. there’s absolutely nothing that unites us anymore, zip.   
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 If you’re speaking for MAGA, you might be right 
 
The January 6 Select Committee just unveiled footage of RNC Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel saying that the Republican National Committee was “helping” the Trump campaign to illegally assemble fake electors to steal the election from American voters.
 
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		 Just like the Truth you have a loose meaning of Freedom in a constitutional sense  
 
Texas Republicans version of freedom is masked in oppression of those who won’t  get in line and march to the same music !  
 
 
Let them leave . It will be just another 3rd world nation and back to being part of Mexico in 10 years . 
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		 Hate to see any state go but since they seem to hate democracy so much maybe it is for the better.  
 
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		 Texas Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. 
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		 Louisiana Gov. Edwards Signs Bill Making Mailing of Abortion Pills a Crime 
 
Yep conservatives sure have a funny way of supporting freedom 
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		 Democratic Florida frontrunner Charlie Crist is polling one point higher than Ron DeSantis. 
 
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Yep conservatives sure have a funny way of supporting freedom 
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 conservatives like freedom, but aren’t keen on what we’d consider to be murder of the unborn.
 
The fact that you think 
opposing abortion is inconsistent with conservative ideals, shows the depths of your complete ignorance.  
 
Conservatives believe there are two sides to the abortion issue, two people involved.
 
You’ve said that you oppose 
abortion after “viability” - right?  does that mean you oppose freedom after that point?
 
conservatism isnt the same 
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		 “Conservatism isn’t the same as anarchy” 
 
Today 6 SCOTUS justices who go to work every day in one of the most well-guarded buildings in the country ruled against commonsense gun control laws to protect students, teachers, grocery store clerks, and doctors that go to school and work every day without such a privilege. 
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				“Conservatism isn’t the same as anarchy” 
 
Today 6 SCOTUS justices who go to work every day in one of the most well-guarded buildings in the country ruled against commonsense gun control laws to protect students, teachers, grocery store clerks, and doctors that go to school and work every day without such a privilege. 
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 and your side is publishing the names of the schools where their kids go.  so spare me the  civics lesson.
 
saying a proposed law is popular, is t a reason. why SCOTUS should vote for it.  They are supposed  to be guided by the constitution, not public opinion.  
 
“Gimme what i want” isnt a legal 
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		 Neither is make up #^&#^&#^&#^& 
 
It’s interesting that it’s called ‘originalism’ when the Second Amendment ORIGINALLY was interpreted entirely differently than it is now. 
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				Neither is make up #^&#^&#^&#^& 
 
It’s interesting that it’s called ‘originalism’ when the Second Amendment ORIGINALLY was interpreted entirely differently than it is now. 
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				so tell us why they made the wrong legal argument. 
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 You can feel free to read the dissent
 
SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court 
 
with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei.
 
So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion.
 
But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.
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				You can feel free to read the dissent 
 
SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court  
 
with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei. 
 
So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion. 
 
But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns. 
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 sure i can read the dissent.  i asked you.
 
do you can’t tell me why you think they made the wrong argument, you just know you’re supposed to side with the liberals.
 
The court has been liberal since Warren Burger was on it. elections have consequences.
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				You can feel free to read the dissent 
 
SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court  
 
with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei. 
 
So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion. 
 
But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns. 
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 the right to own guns is explicitly guaranteed.  The right to kill your unborn baby was invented out of thin air by judges who thought it was their job to be activists. 
 
Activists play a very important role.  But they make terrible 
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				the right to own guns is explicitly guaranteed.  The right to kill your unborn baby was invented out of thin air by judges who thought it was their job to be activists.  
 
Activists play a very important role.  But they make terrible 
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 “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
 
Actually activist judges have now interpreted this to mean citizens, not militia and overturned a hundred year old state law.
 
Generations of Supreme Court and academic opinion held that the amendment did not confer on individuals a right “to keep and bear Arms” but, rather, referred only to the privileges belonging to state militias. This was not a controversial view. The late Chief Justice Warren E. Burger said, in 1991, that the idea that the Second Amendment conferred a right for individuals to bear arms was “a fraud on the American public.” Burger was no liberal, and his view simply reflected the overwhelming consensus on the issue at the time.
 
But hopefully you’ll get the results you wished for.
 
Over 20,000 civilians have been killed by gun violence in the US in 2022 so far. 
 
Compare that with 4,662 verified civilian war deaths in Ukraine.
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		 For 108 years, New York has said that anyone who wants to carry a gun in public must apply for a license that shows a demonstrated need to carry the gun beyond average public safety fears. This is known as “proper cause.” 
 
Then conservatives started twisting the constitution..  in the 80s shocking  
 
Now they will be filing lawsuits stating requirements of a permit or license is unconstitutional.  And their hand picked justices will do as they are told 
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		 A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you. 
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				A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you. 
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		 And the second amendment is not included in the bill of rights  
 
Originalism is great because it means whatever my headcanons are about the founding fathers, who were obviously a hive mind, is the basis of all law. 
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		 Republicans have only won one popular vote in the last 34 years. Democratic Senators represent 40 million more voters than Republican Senators. Doesn’t matter. We have 6 conservative Supreme Court monarchs who call all the shots. This is not what functional democracy looks like. 
How dare anyone suggest the court was loaded by the right wing 
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		since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need   
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				Republicans have only won one popular vote in the last 34 years. Democratic Senators represent 40 million more voters than Republican Senators. Doesn’t matter. We have 6 conservative Supreme Court monarchs who call all the shots. This is not what functional democracy looks like. 
How dare anyone suggest the court was loaded by the right wing 
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 they don’t have to win the popular vote.  why would 
they waste energy in CA and NY?
 
Maybe if your side didn’t go 
out of their way to show disdain and contempt for flyover country.
 
If your side can’t figure out  the mathematical realities  of the electoral college, maybe that’s their fault.
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			06-24-2022, 07:21 AM
			
			
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				since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need    
			
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 Classic you couldn’t figure out the comments were about uvalde 
 
Let me guess if that was your kids school . You would be out shaking their hands for their hard work and dedication to the community..
 
It’s odd how conservatives demand accountability from everyone but themselves and those they support 
 
Then try to twist that accountable as some form of plot for discrediting the police or the POTUS 
 
But claiming Biden took showers with his daughter is what exactly ?accountability or Discrediting 
 
Or just the usual Childlike like lies and. Name calling and pedo obsession the right is famous for?
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			06-24-2022, 07:35 AM
			
			
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				Classic you couldn’t figure out the comments were about uvalde  
 
Let me guess if that was your kids school . You would be out shaking their hands for their hard work and dedication to the community.. 
 
It’s odd how conservatives demand accountability from everyone but themselves and those they support  
 
Then try to twist that accountable as some form of plot for discrediting the police or the POTUS  
 
But claiming Biden took showers with his daughter is what exactly ?accountability or Discrediting  
 
Or just the usual Childlike like lies and. Name calling and pedo obsession the right is famous for? 
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 because the left wasn’t demonizing the police before Uvalde. Nope.
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