bad news for Big O

[RIJIMMY]

We all know how I feel, but looks like I am not alone. This is HUGE.
I am not in favor of his policies but I expected more. So far, we've seen nothing new, no new solutions, NOTHING young or hip, no great ideas...... you were fed a bunch of crap and bought it

Forty-eight percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey said Obama's presidency has been a failure so far, while 47 percent of respondents said the year has been a success.

The survey indicated that Obama's approval rating as president stands at 51 percent, down 3 points from last month, with 48 percent disapproving, up 4 points from December.

"Only 44 percent approve of how Obama is handling the economy; just four in 10 give him a thumbs-up on health care, and his approval rating on the federal deficit has plunged to 36 percent. Those are three of the four most important issues on the public's mind today," Holland said
"The president's ratings also suffer from the growing perception that he is too liberal," he said: Forty-six percent feel that way today, up 10 points from March
The president's 51 percent approval rating is nearly twice as high as the approval rating for Congress. As the House of Representatives comes back into session Tuesday, only 27 percent of Americans have a favorable view of legislators.

[JohnnyD]

Wait a minute....

You don't like Obama? New to me.

[striperman36]

Name anyone, who could do anything different and not have similar results????
If we only knew the future we'd all be retired and wealthy, living in brazil.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Name anyone, who could do anything different and not have similar results????
If we only knew the future we'd all be retired and wealthy, living in brazil.

Sorry, no Anaconda is going to have me for lunch.

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Name anyone, who could do anything different and not have similar results????
If we only knew the future we'd all be retired and wealthy, living in brazil.

Are you F***ing serious ???
Not "Everyone" would have mortgage the next 3-4 generations futures with the INSANE spending/wasting $ that your POS president has been doing !

[spence]

How could 48% say he's failed while he has a 51% approval?

I've got to say, my math ain't that great, but I might want to see how the questions were phrased.

And 51% approval for a President who inherited a terrible economy and two go nowhere wars ain't that bad...even considering!

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

And 51% approval for a President who inherited a terrible economy and two go nowhere wars ain't that bad...even considering!

-spence

Inheritance is hard to use now being he manned up and said "the buck stops here"
when it came to the war on terror.
I give him credit for that.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

And 51% approval for a President who inherited a terrible economy and two go nowhere wars ain't that bad...even considering!

-spence

I would argue that the circumstances he inherited would only bolster his approval. The campaign was based on "Im not Bush" and Change! if everything sucks, do a few good things and you're a hero.He has failed in even doing a few good things. His team has been bungling messages, ex. Napolitano - "everything worked", incosnsitent message on healthcare, lack of innovation, etc.
The fact is, in the darkest of times, even a candle shows a big light, but the country is seeing nothing from Obama.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Are you F***ing serious ???
Not "Everyone" would have mortgage the next 3-4 generations futures with the INSANE spending/wasting $ that your POS president has been doing !

Unlucky for you that he's *your* president as well.

[stcroixman]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Name anyone, who could do anything different and not have similar results????
If we only knew the future we'd all be retired and wealthy, living in brazil.

He had no experience, and made huge promises of change. 1st democrat I didn't vote for since Jimmy Carte in '80.
I just knew he couldn't deliver (and he is a little too arrogant for me)

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Name anyone, who could do anything different and not have similar results????
If we only knew the future we'd all be retired and wealthy, living in brazil.

Are you really serious that someone else couldn't have had different results?

Stimulus - Huge waste of money with nothing accomplished.

Job Creation - How are all those shovel ready jobs working out?

Cash for Clunkers - Worked out great (for foreign car companies)

Health Care Reform - Totally effed up.

Closing Guantanamo - I haven't been there, but I hear it's still open.

I could go on, but the more I think about it, the more depressed I get.

[scottw]

can't wait to count the lies in the State of the Union...

FYI new change of terms...."jobs created or saved" has not been working out so well...from now on the Obamorons will be referring to "jobs funded" to claim success because, of course...they've funded them, just not sure where all of the money went, they did their job and "funded" the job creation and saving, don't try to blame them if none of it actually materialized, typical liberal logic, listen to what we say and don't blame us for what we or our programs fail to do, just shut up, and give us more and more money......like climate change...it's changing...just not sure where all the Global Warming went... and those "man caused disasters" shooting up Army bases and trying to blow up airplanes who are closely linked by a single radical cleric(probably just a coincidence, like Obama and Bill Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, Rashid Khalidi, Bernadine Dorn, Rev. Wright, Father Flaeger, Wilfred Mitsuji Oka-this is a new one that you should check out, and on and on )... and one is a terrorist and one is not...the one that didn't kill anyone is a terrorist? who was initially an "isolated extremist" but then...later... part of the Al Qaeda terrorist network sporting and underwear bomb ...go figure......

yes JD...he is "our" president...however, many of us will not have to apologize to our children in the future for our vote to elect a radical leftist(marxist,socialist,communist,facist, progressive...pick your term, it's all in the eye of the beholder and none belong in the White House) to the highest office in the land... and all that will result from that unfortunate decision...

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by scottw

yes JD...he is "our" president...however, many of us will not have to apologize to our children in the future for our vote to elect a radical leftist(marxist,socialist,communist,facist, progressive...pick your term, it's all in the eye of the beholder and none belong in the White House

It seems like you're just repeating terms you've read or heard. You are aware that all those terms are different, right?

[JohnR]

It's been a great first year .

Jury is out on the economy. Did he help fix it?

Wars: Iraq has a chance but he inherited that.

AFG? Who knows. After twiddling fingers for months he moved forward. We'll see.

Spending: http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ight-live.html "And do sex to you!"

Iran, NORKS ?

So I'll bite, I'm in the dissatisfied column though only marginally dissatisfied - which means I'm less dissatisfied than I might otherwise have been. At this point I'm not voting for him in Round 2.

[afterhours]

three more years of this chicago politican .....if you work and pay taxes- hold on it's going to be a rough ride.

[RIJIMMY]

tax cuts are a one sided disucssion. Obama has opted to "give" money to promote the economy via the stimulus package. so we increase debt and reward....who? Who is benefitting?
Tax cuts reward those that WORK. Those that work, spend! Those that provide goods/services hire. Those that show a profit by working and selling pay taxes. It all works and most importantly encourages competition and hard work.

[eastendlu]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

tax cuts are a one sided disucssion. Obama has opted to "give" money to promote the economy via the stimulus package. so we increase debt and reward....who? Who is benefitting?
Tax cuts reward those that WORK. Those that work, spend! Those that provide goods/services hire. Those that show a profit by working and selling pay taxes. It all works and most importantly encourages competition and hard work.

Didn't the last round of tax cuts favor the wealthy and not the almost taxed to death middle class ?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by eastendlu

Didn't the last round of tax cuts favor the wealthy and not the almost taxed to death middle class ?

No, that is false. Democratic propaganda. The Bush tax cuts were across the board. However the "spin" is that they favor the wealthy because dollar for dollar, the wealthy pay more taxes, so they benefit more from cuts. The tax cuts were equitable which can be deemed to be unfair for political purposes. Its been posted out here a million times but something like 20% of the population pays for 90% of all the taxes.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

No, that is false. Democratic propaganda. The Bush tax cuts were across the board.

Not totally true.

The 2001 Bush tax cuts were intentionally graduated to impact the wealthy more during the later years of the program, and this was changed in 2003 to accelerate the benefits to higher wage earners.

Additionally, the tax cuts were designed to expire in 2011 specifically so they could avoid rules intended to protect hidden spending, really to hide the true cost.

Yes, the rich pay more, blah blah blah, we all know this but the 2001 tax cut wasn't really as simple as being across the board.

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

tax cuts are a one sided disucssion. Obama has opted to "give" money to promote the economy via the stimulus package. so we increase debt and reward....who? Who is benefitting?
Tax cuts reward those that WORK. Those that work, spend! Those that provide goods/services hire. Those that show a profit by working and selling pay taxes. It all works and most importantly encourages competition and hard work.

No one trusts the economy right now. The market is in a relative state of purgatory, consumers are saving more than spending. I don't think consumers will start spending until it appears things have actually improved. The continuing of terrible unemployment rates (actual rates are reported over 20%) and the recent increases in fuel prices isn't going to have consumers splurging any time soon.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

No one trusts the economy right now. The market is in a relative state of purgatory, consumers are saving more than spending. I don't think consumers will start spending until it appears things have actually improved. The continuing of terrible unemployment rates (actual rates are reported over 20%) and the recent increases in fuel prices isn't going to have consumers splurging any time soon.

I dont agree. Look at the real data. People are spending.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I dont agree. Look at the real data. People are spending.

Just looked up fresh data and you're right about the savings %. Personal savings as a % of income is down a bit. We are coming out of a holiday season though so who knows. It doesn't change my opinion in the rest of that post with regards to overall distrust of the economy and horrible unemployment rates preventing people from really going out and making purchases.

At the end of the first quarter, there will probably be another bump as people get their tax returns, but I can't see consumer spending trending upward significantly any time soon. There are still far too many radicals with the economy and health care.