mainstream media

[Jim in CT]

in 2016, the media all said that Hilary could not
lose, that the only question was the magnitude of the landslide.

Then after they were proven wrong, for two years they said trump
and his kids were russian agents. Nope, no truth to that either, and once again they look like fools.

Here’s my question...how
many times can they be this insanely wrong, before people realize that they’re simply unreliable? Does no one care how wrong they are? Is all that matters, that they say what you want to hear?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

in 2016, the media all said that Hilary could not
lose, that the only question was the magnitude of the landslide.

Then after they were proven wrong, for two years they said trump
and his kids were russian agents. Nope, no truth to that either, and once again they look like fools.

Here’s my question...how
many times can they be this insanely wrong, before people realize that they’re simply unreliable? Does no one care how wrong they are? Is all that matters, that they say what you want to hear?

Spoken like a True Trump convert


Does no one care how wrong Trump and his policys are ? Is all that matters, that they say what you want to hear?

I express this same concern about Trump ^^^^^ and Trump lovers dont care

But again plz ignore everything else


"The special counsel did not find that any US person or Trump campaign official conspired or knowingly co-ordinated with Russia,"
you call this vindication I call it investigation complete

but for Hillary same basic premise

To warrant a criminal charge, Mr. Comey said, there had to be evidence that Mrs. Clinton intentionally transmitted or willfully mishandled classified information. The F.B.I. found neither, and as a result, he said, “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

But Trump and supporters are still yelling lock her Up

then once in office Sessions admits there is not enough evidence for the FBI to investigate Hillary Clinton

And Trump fires him

More recently at a build the wall rally with Steve Bannon a women clearly a trump support says this

Never in my life did I think I would like to see a dictator,” the woman told the crowd. “But if there’s going to be one, I want it to be Trump.”

and then the crowd breaks into applause but to you this is Fake news and Isolated thinking of a small few (aka Trumps Base ) its boiling under the surface

https://wearemitu.com/politics/woman...-dictatorship/

[Sea Dangles]

That pesky base and their blind support!

But it appears some are still Butthurt over hillery.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Spoken like a True Trump convert


Does no one care how wrong Trump and his policys are ? Is all that matters, that they say what you want to hear?

I express this same concern about Trump ^^^^^ and Trump lovers dont care

But again plz ignore everything else


"The special counsel did not find that any US person or Trump campaign official conspired or knowingly co-ordinated with Russia,"
you call this vindication I call it investigation complete

but for Hillary same basic premise

To warrant a criminal charge, Mr. Comey said, there had to be evidence that Mrs. Clinton intentionally transmitted or willfully mishandled classified information. The F.B.I. found neither, and as a result, he said, “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

But Trump and supporters are still yelling lock her Up

then once in office Sessions admits there is not enough evidence for the FBI to investigate Hillary Clinton

And Trump fires him

More recently at a build the wall rally with Steve Bannon a women clearly a trump support says this

Never in my life did I think I would like to see a dictator,” the woman told the crowd. “But if there’s going to be one, I want it to be Trump.”

and then the crowd breaks into applause but to you this is Fake news and Isolated thinking of a small few (aka Trumps Base ) its boiling under the surface

https://wearemitu.com/politics/woman...-dictatorship/

not sure you dedicated a syllable to
answering the question on the media, and pivoted immediately to trump. good thing you don’t hate him.


you can’t say good
enough things about this economy, and though you’d never see it where you get your news, the last ISIS stringhold in syria was liberated.

obama did well with the economy and terror, and trump is expanding on it. i can only imagine how
much you hate that, even though your public union absolutely requires a healthy private sector.

you’re
not being terribly honest or rational. Trump does that to people
like you, and it’s absolutely hysterical to watch.
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[DZ]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

not sure you dedicated a syllable to
answering the question on the media, and pivoted immediately to trump.
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I also noticed the same thing.
TDS is real.

[The Dad Fisherman]

..

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

To warrant a criminal charge, Mr. Comey said, there had to be evidence that Mrs. Clinton intentionally transmitted or willfully mishandled classified information. The F.B.I. found neither, and as a result, he said, “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

Wayne, go grab the OPLAN for invading Worcseterstan, put it on a couple flash drives, share amongst some friends, store it in your gym locker, lose one of the flashes, and then have a conversation with the division's legal arm and see if you don't do time.

Anyone else would have been making little rocks out of big rocks in Kansas and you know it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Spoken like a True Trump convert


Does no one care how wrong Trump and his policys are ? Is all that matters, that they say what you want to hear?

I express this same concern about Trump ^^^^^ and Trump lovers dont care

But again plz ignore everything else


"The special counsel did not find that any US person or Trump campaign official conspired or knowingly co-ordinated with Russia,"
you call this vindication I call it investigation complete

but for Hillary same basic premise

To warrant a criminal charge, Mr. Comey said, there had to be evidence that Mrs. Clinton intentionally transmitted or willfully mishandled classified information. The F.B.I. found neither, and as a result, he said, “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

But Trump and supporters are still yelling lock her Up

then once in office Sessions admits there is not enough evidence for the FBI to investigate Hillary Clinton

And Trump fires him

More recently at a build the wall rally with Steve Bannon a women clearly a trump support says this

Never in my life did I think I would like to see a dictator,” the woman told the crowd. “But if there’s going to be one, I want it to be Trump.”

and then the crowd breaks into applause but to you this is Fake news and Isolated thinking of a small few (aka Trumps Base ) its boiling under the surface

https://wearemitu.com/politics/woman...-dictatorship/

"The special counsel did not find that any US person or Trump campaign official conspired or knowingly co-ordinated with Russia,"
you call this vindication

Yes, when the point of the investigation was to indict him for collusion, and Mueller says there was no evidence of collusion after a 2 year investigation, yes I call that vindication. All sane people call that vindication, which is precisely why the folks at MSNBC were crushed.

Oh, Trump is a dictator now? Please tell me, what he's doing that's dictatorial, what ha she done that is outside the authority of what the constitution allows? Has he disbanded the Supreme Court?

WDMSO, think about this for a nanosecond...would a dictator let Jim Acosta do what he does? No. A dictator would have Jim Acosta executed.

You are completely un-hinged, you are talking gibberish.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Wayne, go grab the OPLAN for invading Worcseterstan, put it on a couple flash drives, share amongst some friends, store it in your gym locker, lose one of the flashes, and then have a conversation with the division's legal arm and see if you don't do time.

Anyone else would have been making little rocks out of big rocks in Kansas and you know it.

Correct. What he failed to mention, is that there's clear evidence that senior people at the DOJ and FBI, wanted Hilary to win. So much so, that they used the garbage dossier that she paid for, as evidence to get a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page, an American citizen who the left said was a traitor, and who has been charged with nothing.

[Jim in CT]

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

..

The left isn't going to let a trivial thing like a total lack of facts or evidence, interfere with their witch hunt.

Trump beat them, and humiliated them in the process. We now know that there's zero evidence that Trump and Russia "stole" the election, and rather, it's more likely Hilary lost because she never set foot in Wisconsin.

The craziness we see, is something. I mean it's really, really something.

Has anyone on the left said "well, we investigated for two years and found nothing, so it's time to put this behind us and move on?" Has a single democrat said that?

And to my original question, why would ANYONE in their right mind, watch CNN or MSNBC? Why do they have any remaining credibility?

I'm right leaning. But I cannot watch Sean Hannity, he's a joke, he's not reliable. The entire mainstream media, is a mirror image of him.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm right leaning. But I cannot watch Sean Hannity, he's a joke, he's not reliable. The entire mainstream media, is a mirror image of him.

He's horrible.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

He's horrible.

Agreed. But how is he any different, than everyone at CNN or MSNBC, or the NYT or the Washington Post? His bias is the opposite obviously, but he's not more biased then they are.

Paul Krugman said the US economy would never survive Trump, and he also said that 3% GDP growth is as realistic as the Tooth Fairy. And yet he still gets paid to speak, and Spence absorbs every syllable without question.

These people are given more freedom to make mistakes, than weathermen.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Has anyone on the left said "well, we investigated for two years and found nothing, so it's time to put this behind us and move on?" Has a single democrat said that?

Jim, the investigation resulted in 34 indictments including 5 people very close to Trump who have either plead guilty or been convicted and Stone who still goes to trial.

The investigation has spun off other investigations into campaign finance violations, campaign contribution fraud, Trump foundation fraud and on and on.

We now know that Trump and the campaign had numerous ties to Russia around business and political conflicts of interest and they all lied about them repeatedly to cover it up. It appears the report also lays out a case for obstruction of justice.

How is this finding nothing?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

How is this finding nothing?

"nothingburger"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, the investigation resulted in 34 indictments including 5 people very close to Trump who have either plead guilty or been convicted and Stone who still goes to trial.

The investigation has spun off other investigations into campaign finance violations, campaign contribution fraud, Trump foundation fraud and on and on.

We now know that Trump and the campaign had numerous ties to Russia around business and political conflicts of interest and they all lied about them repeatedly to cover it up. It appears the report also lays out a case for obstruction of justice.

How is this finding nothing?

it’s finding nothing, because it found no evidence that trump or his team, collided with russia to influence the election. which if you
listened to any of your fellow shrieking marxists, was the whole point. It was a flop.

We know the trump campaign had meetings with russians? donwe knownif that happens every presidential election cycle? is that sinister, or normal? who did your man crush meet with in the run up to his elections?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, the investigation resulted in 34 indictments including 5 people very close to Trump who have either plead guilty or been convicted and Stone who still goes to trial.

The investigation has spun off other investigations into campaign finance violations, campaign contribution fraud, Trump foundation fraud and on and on.

We now know that Trump and the campaign had numerous ties to Russia around business and political conflicts of interest and they all lied about them repeatedly to cover it up. It appears the report also lays out a case for obstruction of justice.

How is this finding nothing?

and the people
close to trump, we’re indicted for things they did after the investigation started ( lying, not cooperating), not for things they did before the investigation started. thats my understanding, is that wrong? that’s what dershowitz is saying.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s finding nothing, because it found no evidence that trump or his team, collided with russia to influence the election. which if you
listened to any of your fellow shrieking marxists, was the whole point. It was a flop.

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. They found plenty of crimes, just didn't have strong enough evidence to pass a very high bar on the specific conspiracy charge.

We know the trump campaign had meetings with russians? donwe knownif that happens every presidential election cycle? is that sinister, or normal? who did your man crush meet with in the run up to his elections?
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Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual. So is sharing campaign data with the same nation and people you owe millions of dollars to. So is discussing US policy and lying about it...and on and on...

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and the people
close to trump, we’re indicted for things they did after the investigation started ( lying, not cooperating), not for things they did before the investigation started. thats my understanding, is that wrong? that’s what dershowitz is saying.
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This is really irrelevant. They bring the indictment against the charges they have the most confidence in.

When was the last time you lied about something you didn't do?

[scottw]

ooooh...and when was the last time you didn't lie about something you did do?


it's fun seeing spence so desperate

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference.

we know that's complete BS..


trump campaign slogan next year should be

"COLLUDING TO WIN IN 2020"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

yes we need to investigate obama and hillary and everyone that they ever contacted

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. They found plenty of crimes, just didn't have strong enough evidence to pass a very high bar on the specific conspiracy charge.


Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual. So is sharing campaign data with the same nation and people you owe millions of dollars to. So is discussing US policy and lying about it...and on and on...

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

"It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. "

I see! So it wasn't about Trump? No?

"Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual"

It is unusual. It's not indicative of a high ethical standard. But unfortunately, it ain't an impeachable offense. "Because I hate his guts", is not grounds for impeachment.

You really are avoiding commenting on the media's accuracy regarding all things Trump, aren't you?

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

This is really irrelevant. They bring the indictment against the charges they have the most confidence in.

When was the last time you lied about something you didn't do?

Don’t forget to add that you still think Kavanaugh raped the dingbat. Yes,you sound that desperate.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Don’t forget to add that you still think Kavanaugh raped the dingbat. Yes,you sound that desperate.
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correct. but it’s ok that Sanders and Gillibrand didn’t act as if they believed claims of sexual harassment in their staffs.

When the accused is a republican, THEN we have to believe all women. The VA lieutenant governor is a democrat, so we can take his word for it when he says he didn’t do it, HE is innocent until proven guilty.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I see! So it wasn't about Trump? No?

There certainly was concern the campaign was coordinating with foreign actors.

It is unusual. It's not indicative of a high ethical standard. But unfortunately, it ain't an impeachable offense. "Because I hate his guts", is not grounds for impeachment.

You should read this...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...framers-222752

You really are avoiding commenting on the media's accuracy regarding all things Trump, aren't you?

The media gets whipped up from time to time but I think their accuracy on Trump has been pretty good and really help highlight Trump's chronic dishonesty and corrupt nature.

[The Dad Fisherman]

..

Originally Posted by spence

I’m not sure how by any rational evaluation you can consider Obama a narcissist.
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Originally Posted by scottw

funniest thing ever written here....

Originally Posted by spence

Hold My Beer

Originally Posted by spence

The media gets whipped up from time to time but I think their accuracy on Trump has been pretty good and really help highlight Trump's chronic dishonesty and corrupt nature.

[The Dad Fisherman]

and this doesn't include CNN, MSNBC, independent news channels.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...s-russia-probe

[wdmso]

Donald Trump: Time to Investigate the Left for ‘Treasonous Things’

One Potential Russian Collusion Scandal Has Not Yet Been Investigated: Hillary and Uranium One

Lindsey Graham: Senate Will Investigate FISA Abuse, Surveillance of Trump
Campaign


Here we go....

but again the right fail to see why Trump and his people were investigated to start with.. (not because they won )


Meeting with the russians lying about meetings with the russians lying about dealing with the russians Trump himself suggesting the russian didn't try to interfere in the elections Trump's refusal to cooperate with the muller investigation (if he did it would have done in a year )

again how many convictions and counting

Heres a witch hunt for ya all from Trumps lips

"He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."


"I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud.

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I guess he knows all about witch hunts

[Sea Dangles]

Love it
The old two wrongs make a right!👍🏿
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