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10-27-2020, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Trumptard polytechnics institute
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Conservative evangelical prolife stop caring after they are born #^&#^&#^&#^&em they are on there own superpac foundation
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"Trumptard"
Nice, making fun of people with Downs.
"Conservative evangelical prolife stop caring after they are born "
Except the data shows that's 100% false. |
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10-27-2020, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Great, name one.
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How many do you want? And make no mistake, I am not saying I agree with his study. I'm saying, I have no way to tell if it's flawed.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...19-experts-say
Asked and answered. Can you show me the same courtesy? Name one meaningful issue, on which you think democrats are wrong. Or admit you're a rabid, blind, thoughtless, partisan. |
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10-27-2020, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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That study is from early April, we know a lot more about the virus now. Second, the study was only about thin homemade fabric masks, not masks in general. Third, it's doesn't say homemade masks don't help, it just says there's not enough data to claim that they do. As an aside my sister knows the doctor quoted. |
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10-27-2020, 09:38 AM
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Obviously the earth could be flat, how would you know, some people think it is.
Why would you think otherwise since there is not a consensus.
Try it at a really basic level, masks are cheap and by far the simplest part of the solution. All countries with low levels of Covid have high levels of mask wearing.
That's not absolute proof, but it's about 99.9% sure that it does something.
There are countries that are doing a better job controlling the virus than the US and there are no countries that had better options going in.
That's why the rest of the world feels sorry for us.
It's the leader that didn't want to panic people, thought it would go away like a miracle, you'll have a vaccine tomorrow.....................
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Lets Go Darwin
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10-27-2020, 09:54 AM
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Didn't the study come from Trump University?
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10-27-2020, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Didn't the study come from Trump University?
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National Academy of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. |
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10-27-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
National Academy of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.
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https://www.nationalacademies.org/ne...tious-diseases
This study was about home made masks
Here we go a mask is a mask . Comparing homemade to N95
Then claming masks dont work. Amazing
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10-27-2020, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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The CDC report doesn't demonstrate what the Federalist article says. The conclusion isn't that masks don't work, it's that people who engage in close contact behavior and where mask wearing is difficult to maintain are more likely to get sick.
Focuses on mask wearing help to prevent you from getting sick, not making others sick.
Doesn't say masks don't work, just says bandanas and neck gators are much less effective.
Wow looks bad, but, wait for it...
"UPDATE: The authors retracted this study based on the advice of the editors of Annals of Internal Medicine. Read the Notice of Retraction Here"
This isn't a study, let alone a peer reviewed one. It's a few anecdotes with an ancient CDC statement from February that has long since been revised.
I'm still waiting for ONE!
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10-27-2020, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Didn't the study come from Trump University?
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Smug, from the guy who claims that current unemployment is the worst since the 1930s. |
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10-27-2020, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Smug, from the guy who claims that current unemployment is the worst since the 1930s.
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I lumped unemployment and economy into the same sentence thought you were smart enough to realize the economic state of the US was THE point. I do however know that more US citizens couldn’t work due to business closures percentage wise during the worst os this in the spring than probably the unemployment percentage in that depression, again if you have trouble reading between the lines I can make the text bigger and even color it blue for you. |
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10-27-2020, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I lumped unemployment and economy into the same sentence thought you were smart enough to....
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that makes even less sense...good job  |
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10-27-2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
that makes even less sense...good job |
He literally found a way to make it more stupid.
How about life expectancy under Trump?! Lowest since the Civil War! |
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10-27-2020, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I lumped unemployment and economy into the same sentence thought you were smart enough to realize the economic state of the US was THE point. I do however know that more US citizens couldn’t work due to business closures percentage wise during the worst os this in the spring than probably the unemployment percentage in that depression, again if you have trouble reading between the lines I can make the text bigger and even color it blue for you.
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there is nothing in the US economy, that's at its worst point since the Great Depression. You made a mistake and can't admit it. |
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10-27-2020, 10:11 AM
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https://fee.org/articles/europes-top...ting-covid-19/
"The top immunologists and epidemiologists in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19. Indeed, we’ve seen organizations like the World Health Organization and the CDC go back and forth in their recommendations."
The "consensus" has not been universal. Opinions have wavered back and borth over time. Whatever they are today, they might change tomorrow.
But I'm for it. At least, it creates a demand which can help spur the economy.
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10-27-2020, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
But I'm for it. At least, it creates a demand which can help spur the economy.
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and they are 100% effective in allowing leftist to feel like they are better people..... sooo...we all want them to feel good about themselves |
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10-27-2020, 10:38 AM
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A simple analogy
A friend of mine had a bar. He had a rule, no hats. I asked him, why that.
He said you have to have a rule and it's a pretty easy way to tell apart the people who can and will follow rules from those that you don't want around.
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10-27-2020, 10:49 AM
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More examples of conservatives claiming no consensus..
Any and every topic they use the same talking point theirs no consensus
Then post their sources articles from Denmark as see they dont work
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10-27-2020, 12:11 PM
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If there was no consensus until "recently," and many worldwide "expert" epidemiologists, including as well the WHO (and even Dr. Fauci) early on and even into august and later, said that masks didn't work, or it was inconclusive if they did, or recommended that only sick people wore them, etc., then all those "experts" were far more responsible than Trump for confusing people and letting the virus spread in the supposedly critical early period of contagion.
I don't recall Trump ever actually saying that masks should not be worn. He seems to have been ambiguous, which is understandable since the "experts" contradicted each other. And he has been evolving (as have the "experts") more toward encouraging mask wearing.
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10-27-2020, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
If there was no consensus until "recently," and many worldwide "expert" epidemiologists, including as well the WHO (and even Dr. Fauci) early on and even into august and later, said that masks didn't work, or it was inconclusive if they did, or recommended that only sick people wore them, etc.
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Fauci stated very clearly the mask guidance at the outset was due to a lack of PPE and a focus on hospitals. |
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10-27-2020, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Fauci stated very clearly the mask guidance at the outset was due to a lack of PPE and a focus on hospitals.
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you mean this guy? |
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10-27-2020, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Fauci stated very clearly the mask guidance at the outset was due to a lack of PPE and a focus on hospitals.
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I know that he later rationalized why he encouraged the general public not to wear masks, but in terms of doing things early that could mitigate the spread of the virus, it makes no difference what his reasoning was. Many people, no doubt, took his encouragement at heart and did not wear a mask. So he was part of the supposed problem of not doing the right thing at the critical early stage.
And the WHO went beyond that rationalization and cast doubts on the actual efficacy, or necessity of wearing masks until sometime in august, which was way past the critical early stage that people want to blame Trump for. And many other worldwide "experts" also were negative about mask usefulness well past the critical early stage.
Fauci was only one of many. But Trump is blamed for not doing some unspecified thing early enough. |
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10-27-2020, 02:19 PM
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I’ll be glad when Covita’s over
On Saturday, President Donald J. Trump emerged from his West Palm Beach voting center, boasting he voted a “straight Republican ticket.” A “straight Republican ticket” in his congressional district—the Florida 21st—is one that includes House candidate Laura Loomer, a QAnon supporter who gained notoriety for being so bigoted that she became, according to herself, the “most banned woman on the planet.” From there, Trump jetted off on Air Force One to dance to the Village People’s “YMCA” at yet another rally amid the pandemic that has struck dead 225,000 Americans.
Four years ago, it would have been impossible to imagine such a vignette—because before Trump became president, most people had no idea what a “coronavirus” was and QAnon didn’t yet exist. Now, though, these hateful mental and physical plagues are inescapable. They are dominant facts of our personal lives and our national politics.
This is America on Trump.
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10-27-2020, 08:44 PM
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Putin orders national mask mandate as coronavirus cases spike in Russia.
Perhaps this is what will convince Trumplicans that Putin really is a bad guy! Or maybe it will convince them to wear masks. Good in either case!
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10-28-2020, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Putin orders national mask mandate as coronavirus cases spike in Russia.
Perhaps this is what will convince Trumplicans that Putin really is a bad guy! Or maybe it will convince them to wear masks. Good in either case!
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8 of the 10 states with the highest numbers of new corona cases yesterday have mask mandates in place.... |
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10-28-2020, 05:12 AM
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The way TDS sufferers brains are wired, if Trump said stay home and wear masks from day one, they would have held orgies in the streets while screaming about Trump being Authoritarian and trying to lock them in their homes.
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10-28-2020, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
The way TDS sufferers brains are wired, if Trump said stay home and wear masks from day one, they would have held orgies in the streets while screaming about Trump being Authoritarian and trying to lock them in their homes.
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^ this.
it doesn’t matter what Trump does, what matters is shrieking that it’s evil.
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10-28-2020, 06:45 AM
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10-28-2020, 06:49 AM
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More evidence masks work ..
This is the newest conspiracy going around. Still not sure what the suggestion is that covid is the flu or everyone is lying.. and once again youtube as your source of information is very informative ��
How about his 2 music rap hits bio weapon or i love Trump or go to his web site a buy a 30 dollar god is great hat..
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10-28-2020, 06:48 AM
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There is never a consensus with Republicans unless its abortion or gun control
Where the only consensus lays in a small percent of their base no where else
Republicans party should change its mascot should be the 3 monkeys  |
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