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09-25-2018, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Spence, it’s also not a loss for Trump if the nomination gets withdrawn, and he nominated that female devout catholic ( Barrett or Jarrett?). the liberals should have asked themselves if having Kavanaugh on the court is the worst possible outcome for them. I’d think a brilliant, strong woman who is a rabid catholic, would be far less preferable, compared to Kavanaugh. if nothing else, Kavanaugh is an easier target, being a man. There is no way, none, that this seat isn’t filled before the new congress is sworn in. If the dems take the senate, Trump will do it in the lame duck session, and he won’t bat an eye.
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There's a risk of senate opposition by any candidate that could be considered extreme. Not just the women, Flake is possibly running in 2020 and is looking for his moment to step up.
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09-25-2018, 01:21 PM
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There's a risk of senate opposition by any candidate that could be considered extreme. Not just the women, Flake is possibly running in 2020 and is looking for his moment to step up.
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in what world does Flake opposing Kavanaugh, help him get the GOP nomination?
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09-25-2018, 01:29 PM
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in what world does Flake opposing Kavanaugh, help him get the GOP nomination?
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Elevates his brand and would possibly help him with some demographics. He also might just think it's the right thing to do...
Kav has deepening public trust issues. I'd think trustworthiness in SCOTUS nominee is a key factor.
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09-25-2018, 01:53 PM
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Elevates his brand and would possibly help him with some demographics. He also might just think it's the right thing to do...
Kav has deepening public trust issues. I'd think trustworthiness in SCOTUS nominee is a key factor.
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even fox news polls say kavanaugh has public trust issues. lucky for him that he’s not running for office. if nothing substantial comes out that we don’t already know, i am very confident he gets confirmed. i can’t believe you feel otherwise. mitch mcconnell is nobody’s idea of a conservative warrior, but even he’s fired up. it’s going to take more to derail him i think. could come down to pence breaking a tie with one defector. mcconnell is saying very explicitly that his vote will be soon, he has no reason to say that if he doesn’t have the votes.
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09-25-2018, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
even fox news polls say kavanaugh has public trust issues. lucky for him that he’s not running for office. if nothing substantial comes out that we don’t already know, i am very confident he gets confirmed. i can’t believe you feel otherwise. mitch mcconnell is nobody’s idea of a conservative warrior, but even he’s fired up. it’s going to take more to derail him i think. could come down to pence breaking a tie with one defector. mcconnell is saying very explicitly that his vote will be soon, he has no reason to say that if he doesn’t have the votes.
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What is really scary here is that he is not running for office, he has been nominated for a lifetime position. That should be longer than any elected position, although in the case of the Senate it doesn't seem so. Ultimately he could have more effect on our government than any elected official other than the president and for life.
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09-25-2018, 02:37 PM
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What is really scary here is . . . Ultimately he could have more effect on our government than any elected official other than the president and for life.
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Yet you still believe that SCOTUS Justices should "interpret" the Constitution by personal opinion rather than textual limitation.
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09-25-2018, 02:47 PM
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Yet you still believe that SCOTUS Justices should "interpret" the Constitution by personal opinion rather than textual limitation.
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I see, so judges are binary. Some rule by textual limitation and others rule by personal opinion. There's nothing in between.
Right.
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09-25-2018, 02:14 PM
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mitch mcconnell is nobody’s idea of a conservative warrior, but even he’s fired up. it’s going to take more to derail him i think. could come down to pence breaking a tie with one defector. mcconnell is saying very explicitly that his vote will be soon, he has no reason to say that if he doesn’t have the votes.
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I don't think McConnell understands how bad it makes the GOP look when he says essentially that an accuser who has yet to be heard is irrelevant to the confirmation process. Worse, it sounds like the Senate Republicans are hiring a female attorney who specializes in sexual defending against sexual assault to perform the questioning.
Why can't they ask their own questions? (Rhetorical)
The WH should have hit the pause button immediately and let the FBI sort things out, we'd likely have moved on already. Kav going on TV last night didn't help his case much either...
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09-25-2018, 01:56 PM
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Elevates his brand (or prove what a #^^^^& he is) and would possibly help him with some demographics (with like minded #^^^^&s . . .or would possibly hurt him with Trumpians). He also might just think it's the right thing to do...(he probably finds it very difficult to think of anything he does as the wrong thing to do …)
Kav has deepening public trust issues. I'd think trustworthiness in SCOTUS nominee is a key factor.
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The key reason to smear him is to fabricate a lack of "public trust issues" . . . to create the aura of not being trustworthy.
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