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05-01-2020, 09:06 PM
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it only applies to republicans.
i mean, biden said he didn’t do it. what more do you want? after all, when kavanaugh said he didn’t do it, the democrats believed him and dropped the whole thing. Right?
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What Pete F doesn't get when he whatabouts Trump is that Republicans don't hold to the standard that the woman must be believed. So it's ignorant to point out that you didn't say anything about Trump. It's a Democrat standard--which, as you say, they only apply to Republicans. Which makes them hypocrites.
Although, they may be feeling the pressure from being too obvious now with Biden. So they may start making him feel the heat. Also, that could be an excuse to replace him on the ticket with a better candidate.
And, anyway, I don't think Pete even considers the point and subject of the thread. He would make it about Trump regardless. He's on a mission.
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05-02-2020, 10:13 AM
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So the notion that the woman must be believed doesn't apply to Biden?
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Big difference between being heard and being believed.
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05-02-2020, 10:20 AM
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Big difference between being heard and being believed.
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ummmm....not according to the dems and msm during the kavanaugh hearings
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05-02-2020, 10:25 AM
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Big difference between being heard and being believed.
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oh i agree. and look at what your side said during the kavanaugh hearings. not “hear all women”. but believe. biden himself said very specifically at the time that we have an obligation not to just hear these women, but to assume they are being truthful.
this principle, like most democratic principles, depends on who’s ox is getting gored.
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05-02-2020, 10:32 AM
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Big difference between being heard and being believed.
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Here is an exact quote from Biden during the Kavanaugh witch trials.
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, y ou’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real"
MSNBC, for Christs sake, hit Biden with this yesterday. This is not an issue that's going to help him.
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05-01-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Biden has never once had an affair or been accused of such.
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So the notion that the woman must be believed doesn't apply to Biden?
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05-01-2020, 08:30 PM
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I hope it’s not proven true. But when you look at what his spawn has produced you have to wonder what goes on behind the eye of the public. Regardless, Joe has served far too long.
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05-01-2020, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I hope it’s not proven true. But when you look at what his spawn has produced you have to wonder what goes on behind the eye of the public. Regardless, Joe has served far too long.
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come on, who among us hasn’t shacked up with our brothers widow, then cheated on her with a stripper, hen had a kid and refused to provide any support, despite being a millionaire? stop being such a perfectionist. that kid is almost depraved enough to be a kennedy.
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05-02-2020, 08:53 AM
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Just sayin’ if only Biden would brag about sexual assault, have sex with a porn star, cheat on his wife, denigrate women’s looks, call avoiding VD his ‘personal Vietnam’, gawk backstage at a teen beauty contest, and muse about dating his daughter: he might win some Trump voters.
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05-02-2020, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Just sayin’ if only Biden would brag about sexual assault, have sex with a porn star, cheat on his wife, denigrate women’s looks, call avoiding VD his ‘personal Vietnam’, gawk backstage at a teen beauty contest, and muse about dating his daughter: he might win some Trump voters.
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Pete, very slowly.....without using the word “Trump”, please compare the lefts reaction to accusations against Kavanaugh, to their reactions to accusations against Biden.
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05-02-2020, 10:10 AM
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He can’t
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05-02-2020, 12:18 PM
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They never talked to Kavanaughs Yale classmates.
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05-02-2020, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
They never talked to Kavanaughs Yale classmates.
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(1) Did the democrats believe Kavanaugh was guilty, and did they call for him to step down?
(2) Do the democrats believe Biden is guilty, and are they calling for him to step down?
If the answers to these questions are different, please explain why.
Pete, if you cannot answer the question I asked...perhaps ask yourself why you cannot.
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05-02-2020, 03:11 PM
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Tara Reade now claims she never made a formal complaint about Joe Biden days after she demanded Joe Biden release his records as a Senate and Federal Archives.
This comes after Joe Biden ask for all records to be released immediately.
The FBI was informed of allegations that Kavanaugh, while drunk during his freshman year at Yale, exposed himself to two heavily intoxicated female classmates on separate occasions. The bureau did not interview more than a dozen people who said they could provide information about the incidents.
One of the accounts, reported by Deborah Ramirez, was made public at the time of Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearings. The other, not publicly known until this weekend, was reported by a male classmate who said he witnessed the incident. He unsuccessfully sought to get the FBI to investigate with help from a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee who asked FBI Director Christopher A. Wray to look into the allegation.
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05-02-2020, 12:39 PM
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Whatever keeps people in the Cult of Trump, it is incessant use of false equivalencies, in all things, everything politicized always, that is the cornerstone of each rationalization. Covid's like the flu. Trump lies? All politicians lie. False equivalencies are a dumbing agent.
Very few equivalencies are legitimate. When you compare two things, there are always many considerations underlying one that don't apply to the other. Otherwise, water and sulfuric acid are the same - both liquids. So here - I picked one of them - have a glass, drink up!
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05-02-2020, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
it is incessant use of false equivalencies, in all things, everything politicized always, that is the cornerstone of each rationalization.
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this is hilarious....
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05-02-2020, 03:16 PM
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I believe her
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05-02-2020, 03:27 PM
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Biden is resisting the release of documents from when he was at the univ of delaware. msnbc asked him about it yesterday, he dodged. he doesn’t want those released.
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05-02-2020, 03:31 PM
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Pete and Spence, neither of you has a syllable of comment, in response to what Biden’s principle
was ( believe all women) back in the kavanaugh days?
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05-02-2020, 03:31 PM
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They don’t contain personnel records.
But now that you mention it, will Trump allow all the backstage video of The Apprentice to go public? Because there are serious allegations of rape, assault and racism that he faces and victims have said there’s taped evidence.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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Lets Go Darwin
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05-02-2020, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
They don’t contain personnel records.
But now that you mention it, will Trump allow all the backstage video of The Apprentice to go public? Because there are serious allegations of rape, assault and racism that he faces and victims have said there’s taped evidence.
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how do you know what’s in files that he won’t release?
Pete, what does it say about the flimsiness of your beliefs, that you are incapable of responding to such a simple, obvious question?
all you have is trump. i concede he’s a scumbag, a pathetic excuse for a man, a husband, and a father. so was bill clinton, wasn’t he?
trump has nothing to do with democrats saying a year ago that we had to believe all women.
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05-02-2020, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
how do you know what’s in files that he won’t release?
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right???
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05-02-2020, 03:40 PM
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Apparently you didn't watch his interview or listen to Trump*s Access Hollywood tape. Where's the DNA sample that Trump is suppose to turn over to Jean Carroll?
But keep in mind everyone who is against Trump* knows that because of his failure to lead thousands of Americans have died.
The only thing he is capable of is casting blame and hiding the truth.
Maybe you should ask why Fauci can't testify?
Don't worry the Trumplicans will come up with another fake story after this one, then another and another.
It's Trump*s MO and his other choice is jail.
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05-02-2020, 05:05 PM
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Why don’t you guys care about the 20 plus women who have accused trump of sexual harassment ?? Sad.
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05-02-2020, 05:23 PM
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Why don’t you guys care about the 20 plus women who have accused trump of sexual harassment ?? Sad.
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added credibility to Bidens accuser?
try to stay on topic
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05-02-2020, 05:26 PM
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added credibility to Bidens accuser?
try to stay on topic
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he can’t, because the topic doesn’t automatically support liberal=good
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05-02-2020, 05:28 PM
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Why don’t you guys care about the 20 plus women who have accused trump of sexual harassment ?? Sad.
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(1) who says we don’t. investigate it, and if he did it, lock him up. Fair enough? did i answer your question?
(2) show me the same courtesy and answer this question...if democrats ( including biden himself) said we are to believe all women, why are they changing their tune now? Can
you please answer that? and the answer has nothing whatsoever
to do with trump.
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05-02-2020, 05:50 PM
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I don’t care about any of them.
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05-02-2020, 06:36 PM
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I don’t care about any of them.
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(1). nice dodge.
(2) obviously, you care passionately, in the negative, about Trump. so it was a demonstrably false dodge.
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05-02-2020, 10:27 PM
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(1). nice dodge.
(2) obviously, you care passionately, in the negative, about Trump. so it was a demonstrably false dodge.
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Nope. I really don’t care.
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