If the gop win the midterms

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim I know the flag and I also know who flys it. And why and it’s not about freedom

Your so deep in denial it’s not healthy


Gone is the original intent to unite the states to fight an outside oppressor. Instead, for those who fly it today, the government is the oppressor.

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you’re wrong. stupidly wrong.

People who live in florida don’t feel oppressed. Huge numbers of people
and businesses aren’t moving there because they want to be oppressed. The state is becoming literally synonymous with “freedom”.

you hate desantis, and he scares you. we get it.

You’re wrong.

Florida doesn’t want new yorkers to move there, and then keep voting liberal. there’s a good reason why floridians don’t want that.

And you have to be a very special
kind of stupid to move to FL for taxes, and then vote to make your new state look like the place you just fled.

That’s what he means.

Huge numbers of people
and businesses are moving there. He also enjoys strong approval ratings in a purple state, it’s not really a red state. That’s proof you’re wrong.

You’re wrong.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim I know the flag and I also know who flys it. And why and it’s not about freedom

Your so deep in denial it’s not healthy


Gone is the original intent to unite the states to fight an outside oppressor. Instead, for those who fly it today, the government is the oppressor.

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many times you say the gop wants a big federal government. now you’re criticizing the gop for wanting to be free from feds. which is it?

talk about wanting to have it both ways!


wayne, the gop can be a bunch of fascists who want to impose their will on everyone through federal law. you’ve said they want to take over the federal government and impounded sharia law in the rest of us.

or they can be a bunch of anti-federal government looks who say that washington DC is the enemy.

They can’t be both! How can they be both?

But no, you’re not just saying these things because of partisanship.


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

many times you say the gop wants a big federal government. now you’re criticizing the gop for wanting to be free from feds. which is it?

talk about wanting to have it both ways!


wayne, the gop can be a bunch of fascists who want to impose their will on everyone through federal law. you’ve said they want to take over the federal government and impounded sharia law in the rest of us.

or they can be a bunch of anti-federal government looks who say that washington DC is the enemy.

They can’t be both! How can they be both?

But no, you’re not just saying these things because of partisanship.


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Yep keep ignoring what’s happening right in front of your nose ears and eyes

The Republicans you refer do not exist . In the House maybe a few in the senate

And keep thinking that flags is being used against big government

They want no government unless it’s their version. Freedom for me not for thee that’s their objective and Trumps willing to burn down the Us government if it gets him off the hook and promotes his and their victim hood
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[wdmso]

Another truth teller gets punished by the Maga base

Herrera Beutler said, in part, “I’m proud that I always told the truth, stuck to my principles, and did what I knew to be best for our country.”

Herrera Beutler, who served six terms in Congress, voted to impeach Donald Trump last year.

Trump retaliated by endorsing Kent, a former Green Beret who has boosted the ex-president's lies about 2020 election fraud. Kent has also endorsed the racist "white replacement theory" and has tried to cast doubt on Washington state's vote-by-mail system.

That’s the new gop
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Another truth teller gets punished by the Maga base

Herrera Beutler said, in part, “I’m proud that I always told the truth, stuck to my principles, and did what I knew to be best for our country.”

Herrera Beutler, who served six terms in Congress, voted to impeach Donald Trump last year.

Trump retaliated by endorsing Kent, a former Green Beret who has boosted the ex-president's lies about 2020 election fraud. Kent has also endorsed the racist "white replacement theory" and has tried to cast doubt on Washington state's vote-by-mail system.

That’s the new gop
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“freedoms for me and not for thee”

so when liberals push for gun control while hiding behind private security…

when liberals deny school choice while sending their own kids to private school…

when liberals enforce covid lockdowns while they travel wherever they fee like going, and take their masks off whenever convenient…

when liberals go berserk over climate change but own multiple homes and fly in private jets…

none of those are “freedoms for me but not for thee.”?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

“freedoms for me and not for thee”

so when liberals push for gun control while hiding behind private security…

when liberals deny school choice while sending their own kids to private school…

when liberals enforce covid lockdowns while they travel wherever they fee like going, and take their masks off whenever convenient…

when liberals go berserk over climate change but own multiple homes and fly in private jets…

none of those are “freedoms for me but not for thee.”?
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Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want ! With only the restrictions I agree with. Society can go to hell.

Yep that’s not freedom it’s selfishness .

your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things

Like I said denial


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want ! With only the restrictions I agree with. Society can go to hell.

Yep that’s not freedom it’s selfishness .

your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things

Like I said denial


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"Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want !"

Funny, isn't that the entire pro-abortion position, in one poorly constructed sentence?

"Society can go to hell. "

If the conservative view of freedom is "hell-ish", please explain why so many people and businesses are moving to red states? They're all masochists?

"your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things"

You're lying again. I never said "only liberals" do those things. I concede conservatives can be greedy and dishonest and hypocritical, I've said that 1,000 times. I listed those examples because you are the absolutist who will never admit democrats do those things.

"Like I said denial "

How am I in denial, when I admit that conservatives are guilty of every sin known to man? The one denying facts is you, when you deny that liberals are similarly flawed. I provided irrefutable examples of their hypocrisy. But you, the one in denial, will never admit it.

Make that wrong. Go ahead and admit that liberals, being human,. are flawed as well. You'll never admit it, you can't. Because you don't merely believe in liberalism, you are a slave to it.

Why not set aside the "conservatives are evil, liberals are noble" bullsh8t and talk honestly about policies, results, and what Americans actually want?

[Pete F.]

So the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people, the RNC memo went out and the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI in service to a life long con artist who was impeached twice and lost them the White House and Senate.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people, the RNC memo went out and the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI in service to a life long con artist who was impeached twice and lost them the White House and Senate.
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"so the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people"

Yes, by giving people what they actually want, instead of telling people that you know better than they do, what's good for them...

"the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI"

Ignoring the Trump raid (which may have been a totally valid raid, or it may have been a political hit job, neither one of us knows yet), the FBI is doing this to themselves. They lied to go after Carter Page, they lied to cover up the Hunter Biden "investigation" (if that's the right word), they're using heavily armed SWAT teams to arrest conservative senior citizens in the middle of the night, AFTER tipping off CNN to get it on TV...this isn't what the FBI is supposed to be...

"lost them the White House and Senate"

Yet you'd NEVER claim that Obama/Hilary "lost" the senate and house to the GOP in 2016. Why is that? The GOP is in far better shape right now than the democrats were after 2016, yet you say today the GOP is dead but you'd never claim the democrats were dead after 2016. Why such a obvious double standard?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"so the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people"

Yes, by giving people what they actually want, instead of telling people that you know better than they do, what's good for them...

"the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI"

Ignoring the Trump raid (which may have been a totally valid raid, or it may have been a political hit job, neither one of us knows yet), the FBI is doing this to themselves. They lied to go after Carter Page, they lied to cover up the Hunter Biden "investigation" (if that's the right word), they're using heavily armed SWAT teams to arrest conservative senior citizens in the middle of the night, AFTER tipping off CNN to get it on TV...this isn't what the FBI is supposed to be...

"lost them the White House and Senate"

Yet you'd NEVER claim that Obama/Hilary "lost" the senate and house to the GOP in 2016. Why is that? The GOP is in far better shape right now than the democrats were after 2016, yet you say today the GOP is dead but you'd never claim the democrats were dead after 2016. Why such a obvious double standard?

The poor victim never misses a right wing trope and as a Trump supporter obviously has no standards.

The Cult’s reaction to the search of Trump’s hotel reflects the belief that certain categories of people are subject to the law and it’s enforcement and abuses and others, like Trump, exempt from it entirely.

This is also why cult members argue that executing a warrant on a Republican is tyranny, but shooting unarmed civilians, abusing suspects in police custody, or brutalizing left wing protesters are all virtuous actions that should be rewarded.

As someone else said
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
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[Got Stripers]

I think Jim will need help or alcohol to get over this deep state raid on the GOP savior and whataboutism is going to run rampant now. Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I think Jim will need help or alcohol to get over this deep state raid on the GOP savior and whataboutism is going to run rampant now. Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim.

Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again. So from that, please tell me why I'd be shaken if that's what happens? I'm really curious what I've said, that would make you think my sanity depends on Trump remaining the GOP savior?

Tell me what about this you don't get?

I want him gone, he served his purpose (nobody else had a prayer against Hilary, nobody). but it's time for him to go away and let an adult run as a Republican.

Is that too complicated for you?

"Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim"

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug. If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again.

.

I don't want trump to run...you'd think the dems would be thrilled for him to run based on all their bloviating...but they seem terrified of him for some reason....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

this will be fabulous fun....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

this will be fabulous fun....

the democrats do these things ( like only requiring 52 votes to confirm a judge), thinking that they will
never be in the minority, never be in the receiving end.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again. So from that, please tell me why I'd be shaken if that's what happens? I'm really curious what I've said, that would make you think my sanity depends on Trump remaining the GOP savior?

Tell me what about this you don't get?

I want him gone, he served his purpose (nobody else had a prayer against Hilary, nobody). but it's time for him to go away and let an adult run as a Republican.

Is that too complicated for you?

"Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim"

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug. If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug.

Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug.

And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed. Feelings aren’t evidence


the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

Of course they will. But not for legitimate reasons of course . Or to support the rule of law
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[Got Stripers]

Wayne they don’t pass legislation that helps the average American, so they will need something to do.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Wayne they don’t pass legislation that helps the average American, so they will need something to do.

Yet in the Gallup poll taken in the summer of 2020 (during the height of the pandemic), a record number of Americans said they were better off after 4 years of Trump. According to Gallup - Trumps 56% who said they were better off was "easily the highest Gallup has recorded among comparable points in previous incumbents' presidencies."

Lemme guess - Obama's policies were the reasons why so many said they were better off in 2020 than in 2016.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...er-off-1621962

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug.

Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug.

And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed. Feelings aren’t evidence


the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

Of course they will. But not for legitimate reasons of course . Or to support the rule of law
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"Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug. "

I posted a link, which unfortunately you didn't have someone read to you. The FBI director said it's "very concerning" to him the way it was suppressed. Those are his words, not mine, and I bet he knows almost as much about what happened, as you do.

"And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed"

Well, when they refuse to investigate, isn't it kind of hard to prove anything? Carter Page was never charged with anything, that didn't stop the same FBI from lying to a FISA court to get a warrant to spy on him. But Hunter is untouchable. For now.

[Pete F.]

Was this Jim?
Outside Mar-a-Lago, a concerned citizen wants to know why the FBI isn’t doing anything about Hillary’s emails or Hunter’s laptop.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Was this Jim?
Outside Mar-a-Lago, a concerned citizen wants to know why the FBI isn’t doing anything about Hillary’s emails or Hunter’s laptop.
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it's a valid question....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

it's a valid question....

the current fbi director says it’s concerning. but it’s ok if he says it. not ok if i say it.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the current fbi director says it’s concerning. but it’s ok if he says it. not ok if i say it.
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You’re confusing his remarks.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You’re confusing his remarks.

clarify them for me please?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Define “Average American”?
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[Pete F.]

Americans have finally woken up and stopped focusing on what MSM talking heads & policy wonks were saying and discovered real people are damned upset about Roe, mass shootings, January 6th, the Big Lie, the assault on public schools and Republicans extremism in general.

Media blamed Biden for

…the formula shortage that wasn’t his fault. But won’t give him credit for fixing it.

…gas prices that weren’t his fault. But won’t give him credit that they’ve gone down.

…inflation that wasn’t his fault. But won’t give him credit that it’s stemmed.

And Trumplicans think stealing classified documents is a winner?
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[Pete F.]

According to Rasmussen poll (Trump’s favorite pollster), President Biden's job approval has risen from 36% three weeks ago to 45% today.

6.5 million new jobs -528k in July
Unemployment 3.5% -- 50-year low
Covid Relief Deal
Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act
Inflation Reduction Act (includes major climate action)
1st Major gun safety law
-Zawahiri killed
-CHIPS Act passes
-PACT Act passes
-Gas hits 50+ day low
U.S. Federal deficit decreased by 30% in July to $211 billion.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

According to Rasmussen poll (Trump’s favorite pollster), President Biden's job approval has risen from 36% three weeks ago to 45% today.

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they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers

He’s working

With the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act in the House, families will see lower prescription drug prices, lower health care costs, and lower energy costs.
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[Pete F.]

Back to the midterms

When you lose Fox “News”…

Steve Doocy confronts Minority Whip Rep. Steve Scalise: “Whatever happened to the Republican party backing the blue?”
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